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  • balderdash@lemmy.ziptoComic Strips@lemmy.worldXXX
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    6 months ago

    Right. We consider the existence of God to be nonsense, because any god that was omnibenevolent wouldn’t be such a piece of shit, yet here we are in reality. Your premise is faulty.

    Yes, you are once again proving my point that you aren’t taking the “starting assumption” (i.e. the existence of a perfect God) seriously. It’s perfectly fine if your conception of God is of a terrible serial killer, I am not trying to convince you otherwise, but now we aren’t talking about the same God.


  • balderdash@lemmy.ziptoComic Strips@lemmy.worldXXX
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    6 months ago

    I think you’ve proven my point as you’re contradicting yourself.

    And if God did exist, we think God is a total dick

    The Abrahamic conception of God is of an infinitely perfect being who’s attributes–viz., omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, omnipresence-- are maximally unified in that one being. So to suppose that this God exists but then deny his omnibenevolence is a logical contradiction of the definition of the Abrahamic God. (This is akin to, for example, supposing that a square-circle exists.) If God does exist, but he isn’t omnibenevolent, then this is no longer the Abrahamic God. Which is why I argued that you are not “taking the starting assumption seriously” in my earlier comment.


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    6 months ago

    The idea that the infinitely perfect Abrahamic God exists but you’d somehow be happier separated from God (and languishing in hell for all eternity) is so foreign to me as a theist that I have to assume you aren’t taking the starting assumption seriously.

    Atheists who deny the existence of God make far more sense than those who say they’d rather be in hell as a matter of principle.


  • balderdash@lemmy.ziptoScience Memes@mander.xyzPublic trust
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    6 months ago

    Okay, what about when there is a lack of consensus? When you have scientists who, for example, argue that the virus came from the Wuhan lab whereas the narrative being told is that that’s crazy. This is the problem I have with people in this thread assuming that everyone who isn’t immediately on board is dumb, delusional, conspiratorial, etc. We’re not talking about flat Earth theory here; it’s not that simple.


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    6 months ago

    Holy shit, a reasonable comment that doesn’t just assume the other half of the country are idiots.

    People don’t know what to believe and are skeptical for good reason (some historical, some present). Time and time again we’ve seen our institutions fails us. We see blatant corruption that the elites don’t even bother to hide (e.g. corporate capture). And we see freedoms eroded in times of crisis (e.g. Patriot Act). I’m not saying we should be conspiratorial about doctors or science. But reasonable people on both sides of the aisle see what’s happening to our institutions and this has knock on effects.