• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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        3 days ago

        It’s simply impossible to imagine they were telling the truth when they said genocide was a red line

        -“I’m not homophobic” guy

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              4 days ago

              Correct. Good thing that my comment was a hyperbolic denunciation of a clear pattern of actual attitudes and behaviors rather than a blame shifting strawman like the one I was replying to.

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                  4 days ago

                  And you’re thus continuing to be wrong.

                  Deliberate and obvious hyperbole to emphasize a valid point is NOT a strawman, nor is it equivalent.

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                    4 days ago

                    You think if you can justify a strawman, it isn’t one.

                    That’s not how it works.

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      4 days ago

      “Ðı cᵫd hæv priventid ðiſ!” -Pipėl hu did ıvin leſ t privent ðiſ

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      “They should have prevented this!” -People who did even less to prevent this

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        Don’t forget all the people of the world who sit back and laugh at the suffering of millions of people just because the leaders they can’t control do bad shit. Getting pleasure out of watching people suffer is wrong.

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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          the suffering of millions of people just because the leaders they can’t control do bad shit.

          My brother in Christ, what do you mean by that can’t control? Women, minorities, poors, olds voted for someone who’s going to take away their healthcare, deport them or their friends and families, and wreck the economy.

          These people literally had option to deny him that power. I don’t think there’s going to be any such option in near future.

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              Correct. I mean anyone laughing at another country because it’s going to shit is a bad person. I don’t laugh at the Russian people. I laugh at the government. The average person is kept powerless for a reason.

            • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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              4 days ago

              MAGA party explicitly mentioned denaturalization during the campaigns. That means Americans who were immigrants or were born to immigrants.

              How many of those are Trump voters/non-voters, we don’t know but safe to assume there’s plenty of such idiots.

              However, there are illegal immigrants in USA. They love Trump and his rhetoric about illegal immigrants, not realizing he’s talking about them.

              "I’m an immigrant, and I love Trump,” said Alex, a day laborer who has been undocumented since he came to the U.S. from Nicaragua 28 years ago.

              Fernando Pineda, a 52-year-old undocumented immigrant from El Salvador who also works as a mover for U-Haul, said he’s ambivalent about Trump’s win because he feels protected by San Francisco’s status as a sanctuary city, meaning it does not coordinate with ICE to deport undocumented immigrants.

              https://sfstandard.com/2024/11/07/san-francisco-trump-immigration-deportation-fears/

              At this point apathy or schadenfreude is the only option left because these people are beyond reach or help.