• Ooops@feddit.org
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    8 days ago

    Another important note about France: They are the second country alongside Germany heavily pushing for an upscaled green hydrogen market in the EU. Because -just like renewables- nuclear production doesn’t match the demand pattern at all. Thus it’s completely uneconomical without long-term storage.

    The fact that we seem to constantly discuss nuclear vs. renewables is proof that it’s mostly lobbying bullshit. Because in reality they don’t compete. It’s either renewables+short-term storage+long-term-term storage or renewables+nuclear+long-term storage. Those are the only two viable models.

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      8 days ago

      upscaled green hydrogen market

      That’s been the talk in town for 40 years now. Green hydrogen has never gotten beyond proof-of-concept.

      The fact that we seem to constantly discuss nuclear vs. renewables is proof that it’s mostly lobbying bullshit.

      Sadly, it’s because the political green parties available to me are anti-nuclear.

      It’s either renewables+short-term storage+long-term-term storage or renewables+nuclear+long-term storage.

      Why is nuclear+short term storage not an option, according to you?

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        Why is nuclear+short term storage not an option

        Because cold winter days exist. Yes you can only build nuclear capacities for the average day and then short-term storage to match the demand pattern. But you would need to do so for the day(s) of the year with the highest energy demand, some cold winter work day. What do you do with those capacities the remaining year as throttling nuclear down is not really saving much costs (most lie in construction and deconstruction)?

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        Due to the recent nuclear hype uranium price will rise and keep in mind that the resource will not exceed a century.