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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, “Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND.”

  • chakan2@lemmy.worldEnglish
    63·
    1 year ago

    Micro mobility is great if you plan on never leaving a 5 or 10 square mile area. The problem with that is the majority of Americas have at least 1 trip a month that’s 30+ miles.

    No one is making that kind of trip with a micro mobility solution. Especially not in the heat and cold extremes we have now.

      • uis@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Airplanes are much more crammed than suburb train in the Friday evening in the middle of summer

    • uis@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      Cars is bad, but not entirely broken if you plan on never leaving a 200km radius.

      Especially not in the heat and cold extremes we have now.

      Meanwhile in Poland: you call that extremes?

      Meanwhile in Finland: poles call that a cold? Get a bike, newly hatched chickens.

    • Marxism-Fennekinism@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      The problem with that is the majority of Americas have at least 1 trip a month that’s 30+ miles.

      That trip is almost invariably traveling into a major city center. Like living in/near Buffalo and needing to go to NYC for a service that is not available in your closest city. Which will be extremely well connected by transit to everywhere in the peripheral area and paradoxically, will probably be very easy to make with a system of micromobility connecting into a rapid transit trunk line system.

      Might go something like this: Say you live in one of the suburbs of Buffalo. You might bike to a local train station, get off at the main terminal and transfer for an intercity train to New York, get off at Grand Central Terminal, transfer for the subway, get off, and bike to your destination. A transit system that integrates microbobility will let you bring your bike on the train.

      • chakan2@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Might go something like this: Say you live in one of the suburbs of Buffalo. You might bike to a local train station, get off at the main terminal and transfer for an intercity train to New York, get off at Grand Central Terminal, transfer for the subway, get off, and bike to your destination. A transit system that integrates microbobility will let you bring your bike on the train.

        So you just turned a 45 minute trip into at least a 3 to 4 hour one with layovers. Worse, you’re going to be exposed to the elements for a big leg of it.

    • schroedingershat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      This is an incredibly dumb take.

      You can put micromobility devices on a bus or train (or have one at either end). Or travel at 25km/h in a larger vehicle once a month until you get out of the micromobility path network. Or go to a car parked outside the network.