• Soup@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I’ll be honest, I wanted to read it all but the skim seemed enough and moving my trans friend 3hrs away today is taking it outta me.

    I can counter with one simple argument: Straight characters often suck rocks, are subject to the same lazy writing, and there are so many dude “girlbosses” in fiction it would tiring if we weren’t desenstized to it.

    And that’s what’s really happening. We aren’t used to seeing a female lead all that often, especially one who is just a person and not ultimately relying on male characters. If we want to talk about pandering writing we can look no further than all the incredibly forced straight romances in media and we’ll have enough shitty material to last a lifetime. They’ll force anyone together so long as their genitals match up just so a movie can have a romance aspect when it never needed one. If their private bits don’t match it’s suddenly “pandering” and people clamber to demand some kind of justification as if there needs to be a special reason why someone is gay in the first place.

    • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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      16 days ago

      Youre right, there is male mary sues, and they suck too. I mean, The Rock has it in his contract that hes not allowed to lose a fight, and people just arent turning up for him like they were. But hes not a girlboss, a girlboss is its own unique thing, because we know The Rock sucks, but no one is calling us racist for saying it.

      But look at Ghostbusters 2016 all the way to the Acolyte, and all you get is “if you dont like it, its cos your sexist/racist/homophobic”. Does that sound right to you? The general audience, is all racists? That youtube grifters convinced 153 million households around the world not to watch a good show because there was a gay black girl in it? Sorry, not for me.

      No one is telling me The Rock is fucking amazing in Black Adam, and then calling me a cunt for saying its a rubbish movie. But I said I didnt like the last of us part 2, and I was sexist and a homophobe. And no matter how detailed I made the point that it was a bad deconstruction of righteous avenger, no one would hear a word of it. I was just sexist and homophobic.

      And this is getting to the larger point, where the companies making these things are painting the fans of them, as incels when they dont like it. Funny how we were incels when we didnt like bad movies like The Green Lantern… And then on top of that, you have things like She Hulk and The Batman making incels the villains. Oh what could they possibly be saying here?

      Last thing Ill say on the subject is this. I grew up in the 80s. When I was a kid, I bullied for liking star trek, star wars, marvel comics etc. Called name, beaten, all that great stuff. Now that Im older, Im still being called names now that those things are popular, or were popular. And it was the same crowd both times. The popular kids, who thought they were too good for nerd stuff in the past and now think it should change in the future to reflect them. The only problem with that is, that they dont actually care about it. And now, the nerds like me have been chased off. We are going either. And thats how you take a 2 billion a movie franchise, and turn it into a tv franchise that cant even make CW numbers.

      Theres really no way around it. The treatment of the core audience, has chased everyone away. Star Wars, Marvel, etc. And now Disney is looking for a new IP to bring the boys back… Its insane. They had two of the biggest boy brands on the planet, and then made a massive big deal about making them for women. Who dont care about it. Cos most women, dont care about that stuff. Most probably just go with their boyfriends, but that they arent going…

      Anyway, thanks for reading. Bigger thanks for not letting this get into a name calling match. Good luck with the move, and have a great weekend.