I also am not ashamed to have watched both but Discovery really felt like a chore at times because of all the forced sappyness. I thought it got pretty interesting after the time jump but the above mentioned criticism detracted from the show
I think there’s a lot of great ideas and potential in the show from a storytelling perspective. These jumps or openings of portals or unlocking of baffling new technology are a great plot device. And enable the writers to do almost anything. Including escape their confines, change the entire tone… And it massively hypes up the audience if a season ends on that. We have that in The Expanse, Stargate unlocks new technology and enemies all the time, and I think they needed to, because a lot of classic episodes are pretty much the exact same story with just a slightly different planet and the Goa’uld.
I also liked how they laid out the beginning of Discovery, to subvert the audience’s (and my) expectations. And how it wasn’t very easy to digest, but something to think about, invoke some feelings… And it’s not necessarily the usual spiel. I think they know how to do these things, change the tone and atmosphere… Tell a story in a more complex and not so bland way. And they made use of creativity to approach the issue of rebooting a franchise after several years.
And they have some lovely characters as well. Old Star Trek used to do over-acting as well or have characters be a walking stereotype. Their parallel-universe counterparts had beards tucked on, Patrick Steward etc do a lot of over-acting and weird episodes, Janeway is completely full of herself. But somehow they make it work. I’m fine with Tilly and all the others. Even Burnham has an interesting backstory. It’s really just that she has glassy eyes all the time and then cries every episode and everything is heavy with meaning in a way that feels very fake and unearned. And everything is about her. And I think Kurzman or whoever is responsible always doubled down and we got yet more of it.
Idk. I think most criticism written after the first few seasons reads pretty much like what I’ve written just now. I just googled a few blog posts and videos and it seems to be the predominant perspective from the fans.
I also am not ashamed to have watched both but Discovery really felt like a chore at times because of all the forced sappyness. I thought it got pretty interesting after the time jump but the above mentioned criticism detracted from the show
I think there’s a lot of great ideas and potential in the show from a storytelling perspective. These jumps or openings of portals or unlocking of baffling new technology are a great plot device. And enable the writers to do almost anything. Including escape their confines, change the entire tone… And it massively hypes up the audience if a season ends on that. We have that in The Expanse, Stargate unlocks new technology and enemies all the time, and I think they needed to, because a lot of classic episodes are pretty much the exact same story with just a slightly different planet and the Goa’uld.
I also liked how they laid out the beginning of Discovery, to subvert the audience’s (and my) expectations. And how it wasn’t very easy to digest, but something to think about, invoke some feelings… And it’s not necessarily the usual spiel. I think they know how to do these things, change the tone and atmosphere… Tell a story in a more complex and not so bland way. And they made use of creativity to approach the issue of rebooting a franchise after several years.
And they have some lovely characters as well. Old Star Trek used to do over-acting as well or have characters be a walking stereotype. Their parallel-universe counterparts had beards tucked on, Patrick Steward etc do a lot of over-acting and weird episodes, Janeway is completely full of herself. But somehow they make it work. I’m fine with Tilly and all the others. Even Burnham has an interesting backstory. It’s really just that she has glassy eyes all the time and then cries every episode and everything is heavy with meaning in a way that feels very fake and unearned. And everything is about her. And I think Kurzman or whoever is responsible always doubled down and we got yet more of it.
Idk. I think most criticism written after the first few seasons reads pretty much like what I’ve written just now. I just googled a few blog posts and videos and it seems to be the predominant perspective from the fans.