Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class” over - hell I am the working class. And I want all marginalized people to be included in the process of democracy.
I live in Utah where transphobia is enshrined into law - they just passed a law disallowing trans people from using public restrooms. I’m glad I’m not the guy who has to sit at the bathroom door examining everyone’s penis to make sure it matches what it should be on their birth certificate.
Anyway I think all people have to make a concerted effort to stand up and fight of phobia and get involved in voting for more forward-thinking and less fearful people.
Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class”
This thread is about Labour in the UK. Far too many similarities, mind.
Loyalty to a political party is a bit weird but whatever, you need to pay attention to what they do not what you wish they’d do.
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin. — Chuck Schumer, 2016
That’s how the Dems lost in 2016 and it’s how they may lose again in 2024. And it’s how Starmer’s Labour party will fail to undo the damage the Tories did, just like Blair’s Labour party failed (because it had no intention of trying).
It is because I’ve paid attention for 70 years to what democrats do vs. republicans that I am and always will be utterly loyal in every way to the Democratic party. They will not lose this time around, that’s one thing I can promise - a blue wave is about to sweep over this country from one corner to the other. And even if that doesn’t happen, I believe being a democrat that I never lose at all.
But, that’s just me and how I see things. I get where you are coming from in regard to the problems with labour and class inequities in the UK.
You can hold your nose to vote, you know? Sometimes it is necessary to vote for the least worst option but it is never necessary to pretend that it is actually perfect.
Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class” over - hell I am the working class. And I want all marginalized people to be included in the process of democracy.
I live in Utah where transphobia is enshrined into law - they just passed a law disallowing trans people from using public restrooms. I’m glad I’m not the guy who has to sit at the bathroom door examining everyone’s penis to make sure it matches what it should be on their birth certificate.
Anyway I think all people have to make a concerted effort to stand up and fight of phobia and get involved in voting for more forward-thinking and less fearful people.
This thread is about Labour in the UK. Far too many similarities, mind.
Loyalty to a political party is a bit weird but whatever, you need to pay attention to what they do not what you wish they’d do.
That’s how the Dems lost in 2016 and it’s how they may lose again in 2024. And it’s how Starmer’s Labour party will fail to undo the damage the Tories did, just like Blair’s Labour party failed (because it had no intention of trying).
It is because I’ve paid attention for 70 years to what democrats do vs. republicans that I am and always will be utterly loyal in every way to the Democratic party. They will not lose this time around, that’s one thing I can promise - a blue wave is about to sweep over this country from one corner to the other. And even if that doesn’t happen, I believe being a democrat that I never lose at all.
But, that’s just me and how I see things. I get where you are coming from in regard to the problems with labour and class inequities in the UK.
The US has even worse problems with labour and class inequities, and if you’ve been paying attention for the last 70 years you would have noticed how much everything has changed since Thatcher/Reagan.
You can hold your nose to vote, you know? Sometimes it is necessary to vote for the least worst option but it is never necessary to pretend that it is actually perfect.
Sounds good to me.