Alue42

But no one is impeding their right to travel freely from state to state - there aren’t border checks at the state borders checking papers. They are freely able to travel. What becomes an issue is when they want to use a car, we’ve developed this thing about needing it to be registered and insured because it is an inherently dangerous activity, and taxed in order to cover the cost of managing this regulation.

This whole sovcit thing is so asinine. It stems from the idea of some people wanting to live “off grid” and outside the rules and regulations of civilization so they set up their own communities - like Sealand or Molossia. They just want a place of land where they can do their own thing, they know they don’t have access to tax payer roads, water, emergency assistance, electric, etc, so they have to set it up themselves, but because they are technically a micronation and can be recognized by other countries as such, they’ll do other things like create passports, currency, royalty, etc. It’s all in good fun. BUT since they know they can’t do everything on their own and they have to work with an actual functioning society to survive, they know they have to follow that country’s rules while there, just like anyone else. (While shopping, working, visiting friends, whatever else)

How that idea of people humorously setting up their own sovereign nations got spun into all this nonsense is unbelievable.

There was a big push a few months ago, a year ago, who knows, Internet time is weird, when McDonald’s updated their terms of service on their app and added a clause like this. There were a lot of posts on social media, Reddit, fedi, etc to make sure people didn’t agree to the new terms or download the app if they never had it.

There are people that pay attention to it, and even research papers done on it. A lot of the common apps started doing it at the same time. Venmo has it, Pinterest, Facebook, etc. things you wouldn’t think of that would have cases like this. But certain ones stick out because of the seemingly more real world complications (I mean, venmo could have fraud, Facebook could have cyber bullying, etc), but McDonald’s could have health issues, Disney clearly this is the case.

The original idea of being a sovereign citizen is fine in and off itself - something like Sealand - claiming Nation status outside the jurisdictional claim of any other nation and developing your own laws and methods for citizenship. If you can get your nation to be recognized by another and you are able to sustain yourself (electric, water, safety, roads, etc). This has happened in a few places. It’s just something eccentric people that have some method of getting some isolated land do, or that they want to not be bothered.

But they still recognized the laws of the other places they were traveling to while they were there, because they obviously couldn’t stay only within that tiny little area forever. However, people started to claim sovereign citizenry within their respective countries and that specific laws didn’t apply to them because they were sovereign. Which is just ridiculous even if they were members of one of these sovereign nations.

Since none of what they were saying ever seemed to work, they started coming up with these specific “phrases” that had to be used and ways of saying it, capitalization, punctuation, etc. but the most insane to recently come out is that they believe the government sets up a secret Treasury account at birth in the name of anyone with a birth certificate that the government uses and puts debts onto (that’s why they don’t want to have birth certificates) but that they can get the debts cleared and get any access to the money in the account by using specific phrases to a judge. The account is the capitalized name on the birth certificate and the actual human is the lower case name. That’s where a lot of these posted letters stem from.

My hope is that if they are trying to purge themselves from existence in databases, they also are removing themselves from the voter rolls - because if they truly believe they are a non-us citizen, then they should have no say in the state of the country, or even the local elections, correct?

Exactly! If I am calling customer support, it’s because I have exhausted all other options of finding a solution to my issue, and I have a feeling I’m searching more extensively than the options that this AI is being fed. If I’ve reached the point of calling, I need someone that can think of a creative solution.

But Alabama, specifically, was very against the use of ai and facial recognition and passed a bill to limit it’s use. Now they are willing to use it to have a record of exactly when and where they buy ammunition and exactly which caliber? Cognitive disconnect when it’s about convenience, huh