I find it hilarious.

And a lot of them are spot on

Last I checked, it was more like 6-8% for UK… So, 6-8 out of 100 customers in that case would slow down everyone’s orders, would reduce the efficiency, increase the business risk and also require a whole bunch of extra procedures to avoid “poisoning” someone. If they’re already overbusy, it’s just costing money.

In practice, Lactose intolerant also doesn’t mean what you think it does. It simply means they have some kind of negative reaction, and many people are lactose intolerant to a certain degree if you drink enough milk and eat enough cheese. I suspect I am somewhat dairy intolerant, and I still drink milk fairly regularly… So, if those 6-8 percent who are actually considered intolerant, most of them probably don’t care…

Most people who are considered lactose intolerant can still ingest milk in their coffee though, because its a small amount with no impact. They’re not deathly allergic… Some of them likely also take Enzymes to allow them to digest dairy.

So, if we’re talking ACTUAL numbers who this affects, its fuck all really, except the ones who are genuinely allergic (and do you really want to be serving hundreds of drinks an hour which look EXACTLY the same to customers who might get seriously sick and sue?)

Disregarding that, the cafe has clearly calculated the business case, and determined serving oatmilk just isn’t worth it…

Also, I have noticed at least 1 person in this post repeating brand names, so i almost wonder if some viral marketing is happening here…

I don’t drink coffee though (it tastes like dogs arse), so I don’t really care though to be honest. And I don’t work in a cafe. The only info I’m working off is off people I know with IBS and dairy intolerance.

On the other hand, oat milk can be contaminated with gluten too. So, some people who are affected by Dairy, may also be affected by Oat milk too anyway…

For extremely busy restaurants / cafe’s where people are already waiting long periods, they probably don’t want to overcomplicate things too, and increase the risk . They’d have to keep 2 different milk frothing machines, and every time a customer got sick, risk getting sued, whilst slowing down the efficiency of orders.

Whilst it might increase the number of potential customers, in practice, it might only have negatives

Not sure about France either. But I believe in UK and Germany it’s less than 10%

If a cafe or restaurant is already extremely busy with long delays, serving other milk too could slow down service, and they might not even need the business.

I also know a dairy intolerant person who takes lacteze anyway, so its not an issue for them

And I know another who just ignores the intolerance, as it’s only a small amount of milk

In Europe, dairy intolerance is actually extremely rare. It’s Asia where intolerance is common

You can’t use worldwide stats to represent a localised region

Seems like more a failure of you for not checking if they do oat milk. And they likely do lots of other types of vegan milk as alternatives

Honestly, the kind of person who gets pissy about this kind of thing, you’re probably better off not having in your restaurant or cafe anyway. Because they’ve probably got a list of food requirements

I have a friend with actual gluten intolerance, and she stopped telling restaurants about it specifically because otherwise they’d freak out. She’d just order things like minimal gluten and only ask if she wasn’t sure.

But she’d never ask for substitutions either

There is no way of knowing how busy this place is. They might be completely full and serving 10 different types of milk might simply slow things down and increase their risk if they accidentally mix the containers

They DO though. They sell the default search engine to Google for billions knowing they’re profiting from the ads indirectly… So, they’re really just subcontracting it…

I was implying the fact that Apple doesn’t need to though, because they monopolise things via the app store, and with other foul play (like requiring additional intervention if you want to run an app from outside the store on Mac). They have full control over monitoring what apps and what kind of apps are popular, so they can target them with their own competitors.

They also have some fairly hefty requirements from developers, and even try to get a cut of subscription fees despite doing nothing.

In the case of Pebble as an example, they delayed the pebble app, launched their own watch at the same time, and because they fucked Pebble over, they never stood a chance.

Just to further things, Republicans have a clear bias. When the head of google was in congress, they weren’t really asking questions, but they were incorrectly stating things like Google was tracking their phone anywhere it moves

And yet, Apple seems to dodge every single case. They don’t even allow IOS to run on other platforms. Whereas, there are Android phones which are completely degooglified.

And yet, as per normal, Apple is innocent… apparently

There is also more diversity on the steam

At this point, 90% of Nintendo is just Mario remakes, and broken joycons

I thought Trump already axed that?

Thats definitely fair… To be honest, I keep deleting my account on reddit / Lemmy to keep out of the debates.

Except doesn’t this replace their old tool? So, its not really fragmenting anything if its replacing an existing project.

Fragmentation isn’t great, but it can be beneficial in some cases too. I’ve contributed to a number of projects.

Over the last 20-30 years, I’ve seen plenty of projects fail, and new ones take over.

If you take a look at arts/eaudio and the other sound servers of 20 years ago. All failed, because Pulseaudio consolidated and killed them eventually. Now, Pulseaudio is on its way to getting killed by Pipewire. And one could argue its a waste of resources… but, the changeover is actually super awesome (for JACK)

One other good example of the fragmentation argument was Xfree86. Lots of people argued against Xorg at the time, and ultimately, Xfree86 died ages ago. If you asked me 20 years ago, I would have said KDE was dead, but now Gnome and KDE and carved out VERY different products, that suit very different people. Both are awesome in their own way

Everyone was freaking out when devFS got deprecated. But, udev was an amazing replacement

Linux is evolving FAR quicker than Windows or MAC (mac OS has barely changed in a decade). And, many ideas introduced in linux are stolen by Windows and Apple.

At the end of the day though, sometimes a rewrite is needed of things. What really matters is that it doesn’t fragment the desktop experience (and, it won’t in this case)

Rather than downvoting. This is a good teachable moment

I used to think this way, that it was about efficiency exclusively

But the reality is, any contribution is better than none, and a lot of these things implemented you don’t really understand how important they are until a while later often

One consideration also is that Germany is apparently considering to continue their Linux migration, so things like this may also be based on feedback from admins

Suse has definitely carved their own niche as a Linux distro and it’s actually sad they’re not more successful because a lot of their tools are pretty cool

At least on Reddit, i was getting blasted because I pointed out vapers here in Australia were constantly breaking the laws and were using vaping as an excuse to vape inside “because it’s just water vapor”.

If it’s just water vapor, then you don’t need to do it in the cabin of a train mate… or right at the entrance of the supermarket so every one needs to breathe in your smoke when they enter

Over smokers in general. To make things worse, a lot of “free thinkers” tend to be smoking. Because nothing demonstrates your ability to think independently by being conned into using an addictive substance that harms you

HDMI is hot garage… still… so, anything to get us off it would be great