You’re being ten times the troll I could ever aspire to be, especially in light of your getting shitty in this comment.

Enjoy the block.

I’m guessing there’s just so much money (and power) in that kind of thing that it’s simply here to stay.

You inventing this “no politics on lemmy at all” strawman is all you.

Okay, off my community. Is that better? I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally pedantic or not, but I guess if you’re not, the main issue I’m getting at here is politics is a whack-a-mole where it’s NIMBY until there’s nowhere but /c/politics to talk about it, at which point the baddies win because all dissent is properly quarantined and people have a much easier time pretending nothing is going wrong.

Also can you put all of your personal attacks in the garbage where they belong?

Your comment was a pain to read. Am I understanding correctly that you’re mostly repeating yourself and ignoring my point about your false dichotomy?

Nobody here is saying we need to invade /c/cutepicsofpuppies with Donald Trump is Bad posts. You’re saying “Get Politics off my Lemmy.” I’m saying somewhere in the middle is best.

We have a rather extreme voter apathy epidemic combined with the resultant diarchy, where the main objective is not solving problems, but ensuring the top two dogs are always on top followed by winning the next election against the other team.

You wrongfully assert 100% of Americans don’t care and don’t do anything; it’s more that a large enough percentage of Americans don’t care and don’t do anything such that the powers that be know they can do whatever awful thing they want to do for their donors.

You’re constructed an excellent false dichotomy there, haven’t you?

Somehow putting uncomfortable conversations into tiny boxes everyone avoids doesn’t feel like the way to stop the rise of the far right.

Enjoy the sand around your head, though.

Evidently the sentiment isn’t having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.

Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.

“No politics please” sounds like a great rule until the results of politics kick down your door and black bag you.

Fighting to remove as many posts as possible on Lemmy when we barely get any posts at all doesn’t make sense; ignore the people requesting you take a popular post down for some potential technicality.

I don’t think I insulted your intelligence other than to imply you are not omniscient, and I immediately acknowledged I’m in a similar boat, just not in this very specific topic.

If implying you’re not perfect is an insult, sure, you’re welcome to throw in the towel and put that wall up by pretending I’m arguing in bad faith. Ironically, that actually does diminish your intelligence - actively fighting the opportunity to learn.

’ll bet my left nut that if we both tested our English skills, I’d have a larger vocabulary and better syntax. More than ten years ago I surpassed the average native speaker in vocabulary size.

Real talk? I don’t care. Good on you if you’re right, but I’m almost certain you’re wrong. I do understand why you made your assumption based on the average internet user, though. Literacy rates are dropping in the US and it’s equally embarrassing and dangerous.

My point by pointing out your terrible writing was that if you’re going to argue in such bad faith, you should at least put some effort into it. Put some pants on before you go scream at your neighbors that their grass is giving you migraines. By pointing out your penis was exposed, I’m not actually upset that I saw a penis, I just was hoping it’d embarrass you enough to shut up and go away.

No, you’re just a dummy.

Seeing this part and glancing at your many more paragraphs finally gave me the kick in the head that I needed to make me realize what a colossal waste of time talking to you is. Congratulations, you’re about to be the first person I’ve ever blocked on Lemmy.

… that said, before I hit the block button, I did notice this bit which tempted me to respond because it’s an all too common trope that I’d happily enter an in-depth discussion with you about my lived experience counter-anecdote if you weren’t such a prick:

There are laws in place which allow cops — just like soldiers, to not do what they’re commanded to do. They’re called “illegal orders”.

There are also laws that prevent Donald Trump from serving a second term. Does that comfort you, resting assured in the knowledge that your logic means he must not be President again? Definitely doesn’t comfort me; I’d prefer to live in reality and advocate for his removal. Backing away from my metaphor, I promise you there are cops who have been fired for failing to follow illegal orders, you just didn’t know about any of them because you never bothered to put in any effort to find out they exist. Ironically for the cause you pretend to care about enough to virtue signal on the internet, that pressures more cops to follow illegal orders (because they know they’re completely screwed if they do the right thing). I would know, I sit in the former camp and know many who sit in the latter. Enjoy the illusion, though!

I didn’t insult you other than to say that you’re biased, which I don’t think is an insult personally. I’m biased too, about different things. All humans are.

My point, for the third (3rd) time, is that having Harry be interested in being a cop is not out of character and poor writing because Harry’s traits and background don’t preclude him from an interest in being one.

I think you just don’t understand that cops come from the same schools, communities, homes, families, etc. as anyone else, including you; in other words, you have a significant mental rift that makes it impossible for you to walk the bridge of logic I built for you.

I don’t know if I can build a bridge big enough for you to cross. I guess just stare at my previous comment for a while until it clicks.

TL;DR: If you think, and even shout from the rooftops, that the only people suitable for law enforcement are pieces of shit, guess who is going to become law enforcement? Oh my, we seem to have a Too Many Pieces of Shit in Law Enforcement problem! Wonder how that happened…

“No but you have to understand, All Cops might Be Bastards but they’re could be way worse bastards!”

This strawman isn’t even properly put together; it’s falling apart. If English isn’t your first language, skip the following: Write better.

Do you not understand that things are clearly immoral should lead to law enforcement refusing to enforce the laws. It doesn’t mean they get to decide which laws to enforce or not, willy nilly, but if someone says “go an arrest every minority out there” they can say ‘that’s unconstitutional and I won’t do it, you can fire me and then I’ll sue you’ or whatever it is you do there.

Evidently not, because my understanding of your argument is that it is an oxymoron: Cops should use their own moral judgement to selectively enforce the law, but also, cops should not use their own moral judgement to selectively enforce the law.

I’m not a Harry Potter encyclopedia so maybe your perception of Harry being a loose cannon is much more arbitrary than mine, but in the context of someone refusing to enforce a law on moral grounds, you’re making zero sense to me. It seems like you’re assigning “willy nilly” to selective enforcement you disagree with and “refusal” to selective enforcement you agree with.

I agree, but unless you’re asserting Harry did that, I don’t understand why you brought that up.

I haven’t touched the series in quite a long time, so you could be making specific references to specific things he did for all I know.

“Loose cannons” are never good as cops. No matter how much you delude yourself they’re completely moral and even if that were 100% true they wouldn’t be good cops. Cops aren’t justice. They’re law enforcement.

A reminder that we’re talking about choosing between lesser evils here. Would you rather an immoral by-the-book Auror/cop in league with Voldemort/Hitler or a moral loose cannon like Harry?

Someone applying their own morality all the time instead of laws should never ever be a cop. That’s why ACAB.

How do you feel about ICE arresting people for immigration offenses?

How do you feel about the DEA prosecuting people for cannabis?

There’s nuance here, and you’re pretending there isn’t.

Fair enough, but that argument also works against you:

Why become a cop? He has other interests than being a cop.

is equal to

Why not become a cop? He’s interested in being a cop.

Surely you know cops don’t eat sleep and breathe law enforcement too, right? As in they have other hobbies and interests? That goes for every job; a tailor has hobbies other than tailoring, and a taxi driver has other interests than driving.

True, Harry’s (culture) is not morally perfect, and his morality is tainted by the writer’s perspective. I’m going with broad strokes here, and “he’s not perfect,” does not disqualify him for law enforcement IMO.

But like the earlier dude said Harry hasn’t even got an understanding of the wider world. He would be much better at being a professor, because it also includes studying instead of just enforcing the rules.

This section is refuted by: He’s 18, so “Duh” and “Nah,” respectively.

Even if you imagine a perfect cop, he wouldn’t be acting like Harry. Harry constantly breaks some rules or laws. Not what cops should be doing.

A fair point, but essentially the opposite of what looks like most people’s assertion about Harry becoming a cop, i.e. “He’s good so he should not be a cop,” and/or, “If some/most/all cops are bad, no one should become a cop.” I find both of those asinine takes, hence my refuting them above.

TL;DR: Harry would be morally upstanding and a loose cannon (assuming he doesn’t mature past 18), therefore a “good” cop, but not a “great” cop, and assuming his world is anything like ours, should absolutely be a cop to offset the bad.

Imagine if the magical world was (for this analogy) the US. Some who grew up in another country and hasn’t even lived in the US, just went to a mostly American school, wants to be an American cop? Even when they go through a necessary training (and we know the wizarding world isn’t big on credentials or experience) to become a cop, he’d still have very little understanding of the actual law with just some weeks of training, and wouldn’t have grown up hearing about the constitution of the US let alone all the amendments to it.

Yes, immigrant cops have a disadvantage to face, but I disagree in your analogy and its application to Harry that it means they’re disqualified from the position; that’s a training issue that is far from impossible.