“Consumer habits.” What does that even mean in the context of a car? If we are talking about CarPlay/AA and not a replacement of the underlying automotive OS, it’s literally just a phone. Apple and Google can track what their users do with their phones. They can’t see how a user interacts with the car, beyond maybe inferring driving habits from speed and location?

GM is full of shit, there’s no need for them to be privy to how I use my phone, I already get enough of that shit from Apple.

There’s no way a real human being older than 12 actually believes the things you just typed.

I mean, yes? You’re whining about US decision making around subsidies using a portion of the article discussing electric scooters in places like Taiwan. These are different continents and different vehicle types.

A $500 subsidy on electric bicycles would not get Americans out of their cars and onto a bicycle, but it might make cyclists move to electric bikes, which wouldn’t be a behavioral change that would impact anything relevant to this study.

I’m on your side, I wish my commute was only a couple miles. I’d ride a bicycle, and I’ve considered electric motorcycles. But you’re barking up the wrong tree, “price” is not what’s keeping Americans off of bicycles, electric or otherwise.

Isn’t this article very clearly referring to Asian adoption of scooters, not a bunch of New Yorkers on e-bikes?

This thread and Lemmy as a whole is filled with EV zealots. Don’t bother. I’m a fan of the tech but mention anything slightly critical of the state of EVs today or the viability or sustainability of the current EV strategy from a country or auto maker and you get flooded with downvotes and called an oil shill.

Even this article is a bit slanted. CNBC running a story about EV stock piling up is not anti-EV propaganda. It’s a literal fact, not to mention CNBC’s cable programming has been shilling Tesla and luxury EV makers for years.

I think the bigger issue with EVs (at least in the USA) is that there’s a huge gap between what EV’s actually are and what EV industry players are claiming EV’s are and can be. It makes EV conversations divisive and ripe for misinformation.

This idea that batteries should ever be used in trucking and heavy machinery (before massive boosts to battery capacity and sustainability/recycling) is a total crock of shit. The idea that you’re doing the environment or yourself a favor by buying an electrified SUV or truck is a crock of shit. Buying a vehicle with 250mi+ of range using today’s battery tech is bad for the environment.

Small to medium sized commuter vehicles and delivery vans/fleet vehicles with < 50kWh batteries are prime EV candidates. EV buyers need to charge at home and drivers need to change their behavior, not chase 300 miles of range at the expense of the environment.

Everything else is better off with a hybrid engine for the very distant foreseeable future.

Instead, buyers are unloading perfectly good ICE vehicles for EV’s with 100kWh+ batteries and companies like Tesla are destroying the credibility of the EV industry with their stupid stunts and ridiculous EV semi claims. Others are making a bad problem worse by ratcheting up the consumerism and disposability of vehicles in the EV space by building premium vehicles that are inevitable purchased as a second or third car, completely negating any environmental benefit of the vehicle.

These buyers and industry players are making EV’s easy targets for an anti-EV crowd which wants to undermine the truly green and sustainable aspects of an automotive technology shift.