In old UK English surgery had 2 meanings.

The common medical one. And a general alteration.

This means MPs and parliment have applied the term to the time our representatives spend gaining input from voters in theiir constituancy. As before commons became powerful it was more a lords of the manner position.

At the time when the position was more royal. IE lords and land owners. It allowed the lords to hear requests for alterations on how they managed the constituancy.

Now its more about a meeting where MPs hear from indevidual voters about issues they can help with.

Cool. Your welcome to feel that way.

But when you intimidate people who disagree with your flawed non scientific ideal of the start of life.

You face restrictions on you right to gather near them.

In no way related to this thread.

As opposed to controlling a mammals desire to breed?

It not like either solution is easier.

My point was more about your attitude towards parental leave.

But it is not actually a dact thar trhe earth is over populated. How we live is more an issue then the numbers.

Any science on the autual numbers earth can support leaves us with a few bln to go.

But that science doselt allow for capatalism.

Nah. They have Ring doorbell, to spy on the nuddy bikers instead.

This. It is like any tool. It is down to the skill/knowlege/experience of the user to evaluate the result.

But as soon as management/government start seeing it as a cheat to reduce hiring. It become a danger.

Won’t make you feel any better.

But lasers on a drone as a weapon is not yet very practice. Drone would need to be huge. And bullets are just better for the weight.

Atm, closest we are likely to get is blue whales with lasers on the head.

kissing the corporate boot

See that’s where you are going wrong. Who the hell wants their BOOTs kissed.

Learn from generations of Britt’s. Tug your forelocks and get the lords to bend over and spread.

Your logic is flawed. Even if we reduced births to 10% of current rates. Those children would need more parental support for longer. As that generation would be more dependent on parental and family bonding due to lack of a same aged community to learn and grow with.

We are a species evolved to have very, very dependent young, rather than most other mammals. This presented up with advantages in the predator / prey fight that is evolution. But it also left our young depended on tribal societies to survive.

Parental leave is just the modern capitalistic equivalent of the tribe coming together to raise its young. It is the recent historic lack of it in many societies and post-industrial revolution that is odd. Not the return.

You as a non parent will eventually need these children to learn to manage the society you live in. Just because you choose to be child free yourself. Does not mean you will not depend on them as adults as you age. As you age you will need educated doctors nurses and Bin men to ensure your life is liveable. Those adults are the very children you think are not your responsibility now.

But unless you are a hermit living entirely on the milk of your own land. (if so you are already not funding this).

Then yes, you and all of us are involved in raising the future population.

So are you suggesting he should have stuck more lego up to pull out the stuck one.

Or stuck a foot up there. As they are the natural enemy of lost lego bricks?

The raw argument is important.

The biggest question I have, is how those planning this plan to address non human reasons they went extinct.

Because while human effect on the environment was a huge issue. It was not alone. Wolves and bears became isolated to the UK when the European land link flooded (dogger bank) after the ice age.

Much like any isolated population, this lead to genetic diversity issues. Both wolves and bears have large area needs for population diversity. Their territorial nature means groups need large areas. So diversity needs population mixing across those areas.

Back in the 1990 Scotland tried to introduce the wolf. To discover, lack of mixing lead to a high concentration of males vs females. Forcing them to cull the population. Expanding the project nationally may help. But would require safe passage from one territory to all others. And still lead to diversity issues as happened in the past. Bears are much more complicated. As the brown bear is the natural historical resident of the UK. And unlike wolves that avoid human contact due to nerves. Brown bears are much more likely to resort to aggression when humanity blocks its survival goals.

Its not an impossible issue to solve. But is likely to involve consistent investment in introducing new populations. As wolves and bears tend not to buy ferry tickets and use tinder for dating across the EU borders.

Given, the brown bear was the traditional UK bear, pre-Roman times.

It is rather hard to imagine them in modern day UK. The population living in areas they are introduced, would def need to be trained and prepared.

I cannot see that happening due to lack of support. Wolves we know as historical fairy tale villains. But in reality they avoid humans where they are still native. Brown bears have more fight than flight when taken by surprise. And don’t tend to have the nervousness to avoid the interactions themselves. Hence, why travelling noisily is recommended in areas they reside.

Pretty sure everyone knows the bells on shoes joke.

Yeah the change of law is a start.

But the councils will need money to invest in replacibg lost services.

Currently the political clkmate limits that.

IE the gov dose t have the courage to force the inveatment.

Yeah so can my rather untalented dumb chihuahua. Well about 16 months as that is as long as I have had opportunity to test.

As someone fitting solar to a small boat.

Both is an option. IE have a water tank that can heat water on lower power slowly. Making use of reusable energy. And a heat bump to efficiently use it. (Not really doable on a small boat)

And fit gas (i use electric) instant water heaters at the taps. I have it set up that I can turn it on and often use if when connected to shore power in winter.

But use a tank heated by a solar dump when possible.

Given how cheap solar panels are now. (£69 for 410w panal plus shipping) if your able to fit stuff yourself. It is worth the effort.

Cool. Hands up anyone who care if they die.

OK tax anyone with there hand up.

Yeah but wait till they collasps.

Otherwise they will claim they have value. And I do not trust the gov not to agree,

I gave 2 examples. One that in no way keeps that design.

And my comment was in no way supporting the work. Just questioning if the excuse that op used that they were more attractive then other boxes.