I didn’t say I think it’s art. I don’t know if it is, and I don’t really care if it is or not. I also don’t care if it’s called art. I’m just saying the mental gymnastics of trying to convince someone that something like programming as art is cringe.
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I certainly don’t disagree with the points made in the video. It in fact points out something related to what I’m saying. He states he notices that people that claim something is not art are often gatekeeping something from becoming “elevated.” I’m extending the converse argument: many people trying to claim something is art are trying to elevate it to a new status.
My problem with calling programming art is not that I don’t think programming is art, but rather that I think that label is not useful in this context. Programming is something that is very much valued without that label. Thus adding the label is just an attempt to tack on unneeded elevation to the craft. In some ways the video supports my viewpoint. The debate over what is art is a bit tired. It’s worth having, but personally I don’t think it is needed in this case.
I honestly think trying to define programming as art is just an attempt to unnecessarily elevate it. Programming is utilitarian. It is meant for a specific practical purpose. It does not reveal a shared human experience the way a movie, book, or game does. I have no need to convince myself, a professional software engineer of this because I am perfectly happy accepting that what I do is useful and do not need to try to put myself in a category with artists.
All the author is saying is that people enjoy programming. I also enjoy eating. Is that an art? I even have my own “eating style” in that I like to eat food in specific order, combine two items into one bite, the way I build a bite, etc. But I’d never try to elevate it because I’m a normal person who doesn’t waste brainpower trying to make myself feel special.
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Technology@lemmy.world•NVIDIA reportedly buys HuggingFace for 13 billionEnglish
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movies@piefed.social•What are some movies you can suggest going into blind?English
5·1 month agoA newer one: Strange Darling
Good movie
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Programming@programming.dev•Is Python really that useless?English
2·1 month agoIt’s very popular in scientific computing
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movies@piefed.social•New Poster for Sci-Fi Thriller 'Hope'English
2·1 month agoTbh I just thought it was legitimately a low effort monster design just lazily thrown in the top right of the poster. What indicates it is AI?
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Technology@lemmy.world•More Americans now support banning phones all day at school, not just in classEnglish
3·1 month agoDevil’s advocate take: was the phone app the only way to ease your anxiety, or was it just an option that was recommended due to the trend of trying to have our phone do everything?
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movies@piefed.social•‘Evil Dead Burn’ Coming to Digital on August 4 and Physical Media on September 22English
2·2 months agoEh, I think it’s personally the weakest out of the franchise. I still enjoyed Burn, but I enjoyed Rise a lot more, especially the final act. Rise hit a perfect balance in tone, whereas I actually left the theaters after Burn feeling like the “fun” wasn’t really there. I still need to rewatch 2013 to make sure it’s as good as I remember.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Nintendo says users voluntarily paid higher prices, have no right to tariff refunds | Nintendo says Switch buyers got what they paid for, urges court to dismiss lawsuit.English
21·2 months agoThe best way to “stand up for yourself” when a company that sells a luxury product is to not buy said product. In which case this tariff nonsense doesn’t affect you. More people were affect by the increase in the cost of groceries and gas than the cost of a Switch 2.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Nintendo says users voluntarily paid higher prices, have no right to tariff refunds | Nintendo says Switch buyers got what they paid for, urges court to dismiss lawsuit.English
311·28 days agoIMO I think it’s weird to focus specifically on Nintendo. The American government basically screwed over its populace and a ton of foreign companies (less sympathy for the latter though). I don’t think it’s realistic to expect these companies to reimburse customers, because logistically it’d be a nightmare. The only way I can imagine consumers getting their money back is if the government used the tarrif money to pay a portion of the federal income tax for its citizens, ideally the lower tax bracket. Unfortunately that won’t happen.
You can use regular dish soap on a cast iron. The big no-nos are soaking for an extended period of time and not hand-drying after washing
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Technology@lemmy.world•Illinois Drops the Hammer on AI Companies. Pritzker isn't playing.English
181·2 months ago“operating at a loss” =/= “low revenue”
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How come no one has taken 'A Hero's Journey' and applied it to the bible? Would this not give more evidence to work of fiction or non fiction?English
3·28 days agoThat is a much stronger argument, except Israel is hardly ever portrayed as a “hero.” The Bible portrays Israel as a nation that is constantly going astray and making the wrong decisions.
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How come no one has taken 'A Hero's Journey' and applied it to the bible? Would this not give more evidence to work of fiction or non fiction?English
41·2 months agoLol, somebody hasn’t actually read the Bible. You have taken quite a few liberties, just in the first few points.
- Jesus is never portrayed as “ordinary.” He’s also not born in “ordinary” circumstances because he’s born in a time where the king is slaughtering infants due to a prophecy saying a new king will be born, hence how he ended up in the manger.
- The wisemen don’t proclaim anything. An angel appears to Mary before Jesus is born and tells her exactly what will happen and what to do.
- Jesus is a literal baby at this point. He can’t refuse anything
- Assumptions are of no value compared to facts, or at least something that is actually in a historical text or the actual Bible.
- This is not what “Crossing the Threshold” would be in the Hero’s Journey. It’s like Luke leaving Tatooine or Frodo leaving the shire. Jesus is the son of God, at least in the context of the New Testament. There is no “threshold.” He’s part of an omniscient being.
and considering that’s almost half of the steps, I don’t think we need to go any further
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How come no one has taken 'A Hero's Journey' and applied it to the bible? Would this not give more evidence to work of fiction or non fiction?English
61·2 months agoWho are you trying to apply the Hero’s Journey too? Jesus? Because it doesn’t really fit at all.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•Arch Linux AUR Malware Campaign Hits Multiple User-Contributed PackagesEnglish
8·3 months agoOr you coukd just use Arch without installing an AUR helper?
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Do people who were blind from birth see anything in their dreams, or is it just audio and textures?English
8·3 months agoJust fyi: MDPI-published research does not have a good reputation.
I tried the same user, and it worked for me just now. Thanks for working on this project!


Bright white gravy is probably garbage from a packet. A gravy made with quality, flavorful sausage will always add a bit of color.