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Exactly. I’m not running to chrome with it’s defanged ad blockers and Google stink.

People see the same ideas echoed over and over again, and eventually it shapes how they think. That’s why regular, everyday people, people who aren’t even political start parroting right-wing talking points. Even my kids and their friends are saying this stuff.

You are 100% correct on this part.

The problem is, arguing with them magnifies that effect, it doesn’t challenge it.

That’s not to say you shouldn’t push back. I don’t mean smile and agree, or just ignore them. Deplatforming works, protests work, proud visibility works, civil disobedience works. Responding negatively works. Making it so that there is a social cost to being a transphobe works.

But debating them isn’t any of those things. Debating them is engaging with them, and in the act of arguing with you, they actually solidify the beliefs they already hold, and this is especially true of heavily polarised issues. Here’s some research on it https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-023-01623-8 (PDF link), and an article that goes in to the topic a bit https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/why-is-it-that-even-proven-facts-cant-change-some-peoples-minds

As much as it feels right to argue with them, all you are doing is strengthening their already held beliefs when you do. It might feel like its helping, but it isn’t. You’ll read my response, and you’ll likely go “screw that, you’re wrong, I’m going to keep arguing”. And that’s the exact effect I’m talking about at play. Every time you argue with someone, they have that same internal reaction to your comments, no matter what you say, or how strongly you believe it.

So you allow them to influence other people with their ideas?

No, absolutely not. I run instances to give gender diverse folk safe spaces. I ban transphobes the instant they appear, I don’t debate them. Offline, I’m visible, active and proud. I am an volunteer at my local parkrun, I’ve spoken openly with people at my workplace, I’ve hosted a queer community radio show, I host a vodcast, and I used to be active in organising events for my local gender diverse community. Because what gets people to change their minds, is an emotional connection with the group they’re targeting. When they start to see us as people, just the same as them, then they start to make choices that aren’t harmful to us, and they start to wind back their own arguments.

Pushing back is incredibly important, but debating them isn’t effective. Like most people, when confronted with debate points in regards to a topic they hold on to for emotional reasons, they will shift goal posts, and only see the things that validate what they already believe, whilst ignoring the things that challenge it. When they get to the point where they’re ready to challenge their ideas (because their emotional position has shifted) then, lots of the talking points you would normally debate become relevant, but by that stage, it’s a discussion, not a debate.

I drink lots of water, but I add coffee…

You can’t rationally debate someone out of a position they didn’t reach through rational consideration.

Something fell over in our server, so Kaity is spinning up a new server and rebuilding lemmy on it

We bypass the issue. We use DJI mini mics, which allow you to connect multiple mics to a single base receiver, and that receiver appears as a stereo sound source.

I don’t know, maybe they have a specific agreement with Patreon or something. But in general, that’s how Patreon like services work with YouTube

It’s how Youtube does it…

It’s possible to post unlisted videos that are only visible to folk with the URL.

Its good for folk who want to give their subscribers early access

That was my very point :)

I use a Galaxy fold, and honestly, you can take my folding phone from my cold dead hands, because there is no other way I’m giving them up.

It’s not one or the other though. Peertube with patreon can exist alongside YouTube

What I mean is that they are trending towards being a smaller part of the overall market year over year.

I mean, it’s already happening. AAA games are less common, and aren’t doing as well as they used to, and the AAA studios are drying up. In its place, we’re getting more indie games, more games from small development companies, and they all come at cheaper prices.

Consoles aren’t immune to that, they’re just delayed in their reaction, because the barrier for entry is higher for indie developers. But the prices that people are willing to pay on PC games isn’t going up, because there are plenty of non AAA options available for less, and as that becomes normalised, expensive consoles will falter. Their flagship games will command a premium, but they won’t be able to build up the game library they need to stay competitive with the PC market.

And don’t forget, Steamdeck and the like are out there now, which directly challenge the niche that the Switch sits in.

I don’t think we’ll get a “moment”, but I think the trend will end in a similar way

Peertube is also a thing. Obviously, someone can’t make it on Peertube alone, but lots of folk out there upload to YouTube and to Peertube

New Zealand is about as close as it gets, but even they broke out in to war after the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi

The difference is that voting is not publicly available, so people can’t be judged for their voting behaviours, however, down voting bots etc can still be identified and banned by their home instance admin.

That being said, I don’t like the feature, and would disable it if I could

I mean, if your requirement for a youtube alternative is that it’s as big as YouTube, you’re just guaranteeing that there will never be a YouTube alternative…

The alternatives are there. They don’t have the volume of course, but they’re very much born…