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  • Well, all this feels a bit weird to me as a european. Americans and british pronounce it as f-you-g, but it’s a french loan word, in french /fyg/ (y as in the last letter in particularly). The word itself however comes from the latin fuga, and in german and a lot of other languages the word is fuga or fuge. Fuga is of course pronounced foo-gah (well, not exactly, but close enough) so…I wouldn’t laugh that hard at someone mispronouncing the word in “English” if I were them is my point I guess.









  • kronisk @lemmy.worldtoComic Strips@lemmy.worldAdvertising
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    IDK if it’s the ADHD or the autism, but I hate logos on clothes.

    It’s neither; you are just a person of some integrity and intelligence. Nothing wrong with paying more for quality and durability, but if you’re paying more to be a walking ad, well… let’s just say it’s not flattering look. (I get that not everyone are sensitive to these things though, and that unbranded clothes are hard to find.)

    I refuse to buy anything with a visible brand - I even remove the neck and washing labels inside of garments. When I bought it, it’s mine, it’s not [brand name]s anymore. Sneakers and similar shoes are harder to find unbranded, sometimes you can remove sown-on labels, sometimes I even tape over labels with black tape.

    It actually makes wearing the clothes a much better experience as well. Instead of thinking that I’m wearing a shirt from [expensive brand], I see the shirt for what it is.




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    There are no pagans alive today?
    Wew lad. Ignorant AF.

    There are more or less well informed re-enactments perhaps, but the connection to the pagan traditions relevant here (no, not only roman, but western european polytheistic traditions) were essentially completely severed by christianisation, industrialisation and modernity. There are small pockets in eastern europe and northern scandinavia where some traditions survived, barely. (A convincing argument could be made that modernity and industrialisation actually was a harder blow to lingering remnants of folk beliefs than the conversion to christianity, but that’s a discussion for another day.) I am very familiar with the historical sources, european folk beliefs and various neo-pagan movements, so I’m not making this argument out of ignorance. You may still think I’m wrong of course.

    Also why are you specifying only roman pagan? That’s completely non sensical.

    I’m not actually, but look at the meme again. The context of this discussion is imagery of roman deities from the european renaissance.

    It is blatantly obvious that a vast majority of the miracles and practices of Jesus was directly stolen from various pagan religions. Christmas trees, stockings, winter solstice celebrations…hel even the days of the week are stolen from various pagan religions.

    Yes, and so what? The argument made about the Olympic ceremony in the meme is still confused and inaccurate.

    Edit: and you seem to believe I’m a Christian; I’m not.


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    It’s not like the Christian appropriation of non-christian things just ended sometime before the high renaissance.

    By that time, there were next to zero pagans left in western europe to appropriate from. The appropriation of pagan holidays and themes was mostly motivated by easing the conversion to christianity, so yes, it wasn’t really a thing after the conversion was complete. Local traditions and syncretism (saint worship etc) living on was mostly discouraged by the church so there is no appropriation argument to be made there either really.(The rest of the world is another issue; we’re talking pagan here, which specifically refers to european polytheistic traditions.)

    I’d argue it’s ongoing.

    Well, go ahead and argue. Isn’t the tendency of modern evangelicals rather to be scared out of their minds by any suggestion of heathendom, basically equating it to satanism? Jehovahs Witnesses for instance does not celebrate christmas for this very reason?

    And even if Leonardo did not appropriate, the Christians now reacting with fury to the depiction of “their” last supper are appropriating.

    Jan van Bijlert who painted Les Festin des Dieux was a christian… His depiction of Roman gods and entities are probably as accurate as The lion at Gripsholm Castle is to a real lion. And again, at the time there were no Roman Pagans alive to appropriate from, just as there are none today. You make no sense.


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    That’s a pretty poor excuse since the meme makes a statement presented as factual that falls apart upon scrutiny. Without this connection, the meme is nothing.

    Secondly, the meme isn’t actually funny, it just validates the previously held beliefs of this community. There is no joke, just a poorly argued “gotcha”. Validation feels good, but it’s not actually humor even if the two is often confused.


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    This meme is just confused. The Feast of the Gods motif would be familiar to da Vinci and whether it was deliberately referenced or perhaps just a visual convention of how to portray a feast, and who influenced who are questions best asked to an art historian specialized on the time period. But ultimately it doesn’t really matter - da Vinci’s The Last Supper is one of the most iconic images in history and it’s not strange that people watching makes the connection, I certainly did even if I also got the reference to Les Festin des Dieux. Of course the idea that the ceremony mocks Jesus or whatever is a hysterical reaction, but that’s American evangelicals for you.

    Connecting this to christian adaptation of Pagan holidays and motifs, however, is farfetched and ahistorical. The Last Supper is a painting, Leonardo is not the christian church. Leonardo was active during the high renaissance, a time when the ideas and imagery of (mostly pagan) Antiquity was reintroduced into christian europe. References to pagan rome and greece was à la mode in art.


  • Fair point, but I would argue that if you had that kind of experience on twitter, you’re weren’t really the target demographic.

    Desperate and out of touch, yes, but deliberately fucking up a platform and ruining his “Iron Man” persona? He’s too stupid and too invested in what people think of him.

    There’s a version of this conspiracy I could buy though: the Saudis gave him money and stroked his ego knowing that there was no way he wouldn’t fuck the whole thing up. Everyone except him knew how this was going to end. That conspiracy I could get behind.