I mean have you heard an Australian accent? It’s like “this is totally a legit accent, we’re speaking English, mate, jabbamawong!” half of it isn’t even words they just make it up as they go like they’re not being sarcastic.

Never bought it.

I agree, if you are. Never said anything about force feeding though.

A good dough is just good bread, but anyone who has ever eaten bread will know it’ll dry and get hard if it sits out in the open for long enough. And even then, it can make for good breadsticks for sauce or soup or whatever if it’s a good dough. Like I said, it all boils down to how good the dough/crust is. I don’t really eat shitty pizza with shitty dough though so I don’t really have the problem of “force feeding” the crusts. The dough, along with the tomato sauce is one of the most important parts of a good pizza IMO.

Eating crust first is a war crime.

To me it’s like eating your least favorite candy in a mixed bag first - you’re left with the best part last. You have to leave just a bit of it so you can still grab it.

E: Also, if you eat all the crusts last they usually go dry and hard instead of nice and warm when you eat them first or as you go along. Depends on whether the dough is good really.

Oooh garlic butter is gonna be my next one to try. Pizza and spiiicy spicy curry is my hangover special - leftover curry and make or order pizza and then eat the crusts with the sauce. Garlic butter sounds like heaven though.

E: Tomato soup is also another great one for dipping crusts.

I mean the correct order is the tip with a bite of the crust from one side, then continue to go along that side biting a piece of the crust along with the base pizza. Unless you have something like curry on the side, then you can just not eat the crust at all and use it as breadsticks for the curry.

I’m confused by this comic, because she’s literally eating it crust first, which is not the side. And crust first is a 100% qualified way to eat pizza.

Also pineapple is one of the best toppings

Good point, they probably are. A cassette can fit in a pocket though, it’s like a greeting card and usually comes with a download code. CD’s are just lame :D I don’t know man.

Yeah cassettes never went away when it comes to punk. It’s a cheap way to distribute your music in physical form as well, which is a big part of why it’s so present in punk and indie music.

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On top of all that, I wonder how much the types of backports they’re rooting for would be used to acquire the kind of material pedophiles are after. I mean kids will be kids either way and be stupid and the people that are after kiddie porn seem more likely the type of people to know their way around and stay hidden, because they’re literally predators. These backports will be abused by both “the legitimate” side and criminals, so wouldn’t having a “special key” to unlock your backdoor put your children in more danger, especially when you’re sleeping sound thinking you’re safe and therefore not worried about someone, “breaking in”. (Is it still breaking in if they have a fucking key?)

I don’t feel that’s true coming from more “traditional” art circles. From my anecdotal experience, most people can’t tell AI art from human art, especially digital and the kind the examples are from - meaning, hobbyist/semi-pro/pro deviant art type stuff. The examples seem obviously hand picked from both non-AI and AI-side to eliminate any differences as far as possible. And I feel both, the inability to tell the difference and the reason the dataset is what it is is because, well, they’re very similar, mainly because the whole deviant art/art station/whatever scene is a masssssive part of the dataset they use to train these Ai-models, closing the gap even further.

I’m even a bit of a stickler when it comes to using digital tools and prefer to work with pens and paints as far as possible, but I flunked out pretty bad, but then again I can’t really stand this deviant art type stuff so I’m not a 100% familiar, a lot of the human made ones look very AI.

I’d be interested in seeing the same, artist vs. non-artist survey, but honestly I feel it’s the people more familiar with specifically AI-generated art that can tell them apart the best. They literally specifically have to learn (if you’re good at it) to spot the weird little AI-specific details and oopsies to not make it look weird and in the uncanny valley.

It’s sad to see how AI advocates strive to replicate the work of artists all the while being incredibly dismissive of their value. No wonder so many artists are incensed to get rid of everything AI.

It’s such a shame too. Like you can have a million sensible takes and opinions and views on the topic, pro-AI, but the discussion revolves around the same shit on both sides.

It is an amazing tool, and could be used (and is used, it’s just obscured by the massive amount of shit and assholes trolling other people/artists) in so many creative ways. I’d been in a bit of a rut for quite a few years (partially because my brain no make happy chemicals or sleep), but I haven’t been as excited about the possibilities and inspired maybe ever in my life (at least not for a decade or nearly two) with art and my own stuff. I’m finally drawing again after way too many years of letting my stuff gather dust.

I mean you’re not wrong, but it’s both. It’s a play on expectations and the euphemism. C&H have been doing it for over a decade, it’s kind of a big part of their shtick and one of the few jokes they have.

You have the right idea. To most people a lot of the stuff she paved way for and influenced in some way or the other, directly or indirectly in more experimental music scenes, probably still sounds awful. And it’s not like this cult of personality thing people tend to have with hit and hip bands like The Beatles, but more about the whole scene and movement. She was involved with a lot of cool people back in the day - hell she was involved with Fluxus and if she didn’t do anything else at all that’s a big enough of a merit in it’s own right.

The Japanese noise scene would definitely not be the same, Yamataka Eye and his work with Hanatarash, pre-‘Super æ’ Boredoms, Naked City, is vocally very similar. Yoko is just as much proto-noise/japanoise as Black Sabbath is proto-metal.

As lowly as Diamanda Galás speaks of her (Galás says that she can’t sing, which is true, but it really is beside the point), I’d be hard pressed to believe she wasn’t at least indirectly paving the way for her work. Hell they both draw from free jazz and both collaborated with Ornette Coleman.

Members of Sonic Youth have said she has influenced them, Thruston even did a track for ‘Rising Mixes’ (a la Ono’s ‘Rising’ album) that featured, and Kim has been even more vocal about her. On the same album you can find Tricky (Massive Attack) and Ween as well. Ween has talked about her on at least one occasion. You can find quotes from Mike Watt of Minutemen and fIREHOSE talk very highly of her. Iggy Pop is apparently also a fan, which doesn’t really surprise me. Björk?

And then finally for one very much direct and clearl influence: Dagmar Krause of Art Bears. There are times she sounds a little too similar, but to as much it does with Yamataka Eye and Diamanda Galás, they did it better. It’s not like she’s single-handedly made bands like Sonic Youth form their sound or anything. Influence can be more than just bands going “hey that sounds cool, let’s do that, but like, in our own way”.

Velvet Underground and Laurie Anderson I’d fathom as well and you put some of my thoughts (and many of these people’s thoughts) nicely into words with that second paragraph. Especially considering the work of groups like Fluxus, among others.

I’m trying to be as coherent as possible I haven’t slept in a couple of days.

As much as I haven’t found a single thing of hers I can stand to listen she’s actually influenced a fair amount of amazing bands and singers, but I suppose sometimes it takes someone making an idiot of themselves to inspire others. All I know is for some reason I have her to thank for some influencing great bands.

Lol, “One, two! One, two!” at the beginning had me thinking it’s Danny Brown or Quasimoto or something.

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