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  • Sure but every large city and many medium to small cities have mass transit via buses. Not technically trains but if we’re talking passenger mass transit it’s better than nothing. America isn’t really a developing country when it comes to passenger service, that sort of insults everyone. India is a developing country and they pack so deep onto trains that they ride the roofs and hang off the sides. America had a very large passenger network at one time, which downsized because of the publics adoption of automobiles. It’s very developed, you’re ignoring cities that have a metropolis rail system like LA, Philly, etc. The cities that tend to have none at all are southern cities that got built up in the last 50ish years once AC became common place (Texas.) Even then I think some of those communities are pushing for some passenger rail service.

    Thing to remember is we’ll never have anything like Europes system because most European countries are the size of an American state. We have such vast distances between some major cities (new york to LA) that you can’t reasonably expect a passenger rail system.


  • And the precursors to the freight companies were often the railroad companies themselves who at one time offered passenger service until the services became unprofitable. Society killed mass passenger service. The government then bailed them out and created a subsidized passenger rail service, which the public widely mocked for decades, because car culture was king.

    And while this was happening the more profitable sectors of passenger railroads in the USA (big city subways/trolleys and metropolis rail) were actually profitable and experienced a continued growth for the most part. Amtrak still has its problems but has achieved some success in these areas (east coast is better suited for passenger rail and sure enough Amtraks most popular lines are on the east coast.)


  • Trains work great in the USA. We didn’t invent them but we’ve sure had our way with them.

    • We have thousands of miles of track which ships millions of tons of freight every year.
    • We have a system of moving passengers around the country which, while not perfect, still manages to function despite multiple alternatives.
    • We have thousands of miles of commuter trains around metropolises that move people to the city and out of the city everyday.
    • We have above ground light rail trolleys in some places, though not as many as we once had.
    • We have multiple kinds of underground trains; ones that move people through subways and ones that move material out of mines.
    • We even have trains that are purely for entertainment value, usually called heritage railroads or tourist trains.
    • Oh and lots of airports have a small automatically controlled train that ferries passengers along the terminals.

  • Maybe the solution is to enforce the immigration regs and penalize employers who hire undocumented people.

    That would be the most effective way, which is why they don’t do it. They need that exploitation to make record profits for themselves and the shareholders.

    Supreme court needs to overturn Ford v Dodge Brothers, the case that established that companies are only accountable to their shareholders, since a century later its clear that companies have an obligation to multiple parties and not just the shareholders. A company needs to comply with safety regulations to protect its employees to reduce the risk of having to pay for medical treatment as a result of an injury, paying employees better ensures a higher level of productivity in most cases which itself could be a benefit to the shareholders, companies need to make sure their costumers are happy so they need to offer a quality product that won’t poison them, etc. Plenty of examples of a company having responsibilities to others, in some cases we can argue this practice itself benefits the shareholders and yet we still see corporations believing this antiquated idea that was decided by an ancient court case from an entirely different era.

    Then providing some protections for all workers, even the illegal ones, while also passing legislation that prohibits and punishes out-sourcing. Prior to Reagan most undocumented workers were just Mexicans who crossed the border to do seasonal work or a daily routine (maids) for localities near the border, then they’d go home at the end of the day or season. These jobs aren’t really competitive so let them do these things so long as they aren’t hurting people. H1B’s definitely steal good paying jobs, thats why we hear about Indian’s scamming their way into them with fake degrees and certifications. Highly competitive jobs shouldn’t be up for grabs like that.

    All these call centers shipped to India that access are personal info is going to bite us in the ass sooner or later. Make it illegal for companies to do that and we’ll see jobs pour back into the USA. No reason not to, a large and stable middle class fuels economic growth.



  • Ah yes don’t fix the problem just let it continue to get worse and worse.

    This is about as realistic as Americans doing their own farming after kicking out all the Mexicans.

    Few differences here between tech jobs and farming. Tech jobs are the pinnacle of earners. Harvesting/Farming is one of the lowest form of income generation. Much easier to return those high skill jobs to Americans. Higher wages only hurt the CEO and upper management, wonder why they hired cheap slave labor to begin with.

    Honestly the visa holders might be in better shape.

    Most of these H1B jobs were coming from India, national notorious for fraud. In fact, lying and buying credentials is so ingrained in Indian culture when tech workers were tested on their skills something like 95% were found unsuitable for IT work. So I’m not super worried about losing that “talent” to India, we’ve got plenty of actual talent in the USA still. For years the younger generations were told to learning programming and get a CS degree. I bet we would find more than 5% of them are capable.

    Also, talk to any American tech worker who has experienced out-sourcing to India or bringing in “talent” from India via H1B and you’ll hear some fun horror stories. Usually goes like this; manager wanted a bonus so he fires the team and sources Indians, usually because some consultant company contacted him with “they will work for $2 a day” promises. The replacements will either be totally incompetent from day one, sometimes they start off well until the workload is moved to new people (the people who start are actually skilled and over the course of weeks they move on to the next project and their replacements are totally incompetent.) After destroying the companies mainframe, database, software, website, etc the manager ends up firing them and begging the original team members to return to fix things.

    I’ve heard and read dozens of such accounts. I experienced it myself. H1B’s tend to suck. At best they’re skilled but often suffer a noticeable language barrier and culture barrier.

    There was no scheme to replace the American worker, that’s just how capitalism works.

    There was, in fact, a scheme to replace the American worker with H1B. In fact, tech companies lobbied for H1B in the 1990’s then expanded it. In order to say they couldn’t find American workers they’d use all kinds of schemes; demanding levels of experience for insultingly low wages, running the ad in obscure news papers in the middle of bumfuck USA so no one would see them, etc. Oh, and then recruiting companies from India got involved.

    If it’s literally cheaper to import labor, it’s not objectively the companies fault

    I could literally replace every single American right now regardless of their age with someone for India. That replacement will cost less money. Why aren’t we replacing all Americans with Indians? Indian retiree’s get like $3 a month for social security, verse $1500 for Americans. Why don’t we replace all the American’s drawing SS with Indian elderly people and pocket the difference?

    We have to find a practical balance between our society thriving and corporate greed.