Bolstered by Cluster Truck? What? The 18% increase is more than triple the Cluster Truck’s delivery numbers, and the article very clearly says that Tesla’s deliveries only increased 1.2% after a five month “slump”. Someone needs a better editor.
You haven’t paid attention long enough. They have talked about a purpose built vehicle multiple times, they’ve talked about owners operating vehicles in a pool, they’ve talked about Tesla owning and operating vehicles, none of this is new. They’ve lied about this for a decade, but for whatever reason people keep believing.
I’m glad you see the con for what it is.
Bankruptcy (chapter 11) doesn’t mean the company goes out of business, or that the share price goes to zero. It means they renegotiate debts, after presenting a plan describing how they’ll be able to pay those renegotiated debts. If those debts can not be renegotiated, the company can not present a plan that offers paying them off, or the court rejects any part of the plan, then the company’s assets may be liquidated to pay any outstanding debts.
Being bought out would likely come before any of this, which again means the stock wouldn’t be worthless.
I sold the rest of my shares when the robotaxi was announced
Which time? Because that’s been announced multiple times a year since 2014.
He absolutely was. Early on, there was literally nothing Elon could say or do that would make Fred question Elon’s integrity or genius. The change in Elon’s relationship with Fred came when Fred finally actually owned a Tesla vehicle and realized it was a piece of shit. He had the audacity to ask Elon questions about quality problems people were reporting and Fred finally believed, on open Twitter, which got Elon to block Fred temporarily at least. What happened next in the community is the most predictable thing ever, as the True Believers turned on Fred and accused him of everything under the sun.
Interesting that they’re licensing BYD’s blades, I’d be very curious to see how those hold up against heavy use and warranty claims. It also feels like odd timing for BW to be announcing packs for commercial BEVs, given the fact basically every manufacturer has moved away from the ODM model and instead turned to either OEM or fully in-house manufactured packs. The cells are the parts that vehicle manufacturers need to source, and any of them that have tried to consume externally designed generic packs have had issues with packaging in their vehicles.
The DCFC makes sense as a public charger, which they mention in their press release, and as a fleet DCFC. But unless they’re doing something very unique or partnering with fleet operators, it’s hard to see what this gains them.
I give Tesla credit for what they did. Bilk state and federal governments out of billions of dollars with various schemes to build a car company that makes chintzy cars and sells them to over extended buyers for top dollar. That is the Tesla success story. They weren’t first, or best, but they were able to expand their production based on debt and fraud unlike other players in the space.
That’s not what the Tesla weirdos said when Tesla increased sales by large percentages. If you eat your cake, you can’t have it too.
I like it when you weirdos come through and try SO HARD to pretend Tesla isn’t making shitboxes. Especially to people that have owned them. I just hope they’re paying you for this work.
Simping this hard for Tesla at least gets you paid, right? Because doing it for free would be so sad.
Teslas are also pieces if shit. Should fort switch to making unreliable, poorly built shitboxes with crappy interior materials and designs? I don’t personally think so. Also, how much of Ford’s production run was sold versus Tesla’s?
I know full well Ford aren’t losing money on each sale. But that’s the idiotic meme that keeps popping up.
IMO a good luxury car doesn’t need a bunch of bullshit software either. Making a vehicle that works primarily as a vehicle and lastly as a gadget should really be the focus IMO. But these companies all thought there was easy money to be saved by eliminating buttons and replacing it with touch screens running software. Unfortunately, very few of them compared the reliability of a button with a 10 million cycle rating to software running on an ARM processor on a commodity LCD panel.
Younger consumers that are buying expensive vehicles for the first time also don’t realize that luxury doesn’t mean sparse plastic interior with a touch screen, but rather the quality of materials and components used in the vehicle. Perhaps that’s the industry changing, or perhaps is naive people being ripped off, only time will tell.
We’re talking EVs. Go look at their EV numbers and the improvement percentage.
Tesla sales are down because Elon is an asshat.
Tesla sales are down because the market for shitboxes is saturated and customers figured out they were the mark in the con.
It isn’t the 1960s anymore and this isn’t how people shop for cars. The advice my family has asked is about EVs because I own one. Nothing at all to do with sports car or not.
Tesla got where they are by screwing customers and relying on other companies not taking safety or financial risks that Elon is more than happy to. And if you look, you’ll see that Tesla sales have slumped dramatically as real manufacturers started making cars. None of the Tesla models were sports cars until arguably the model 3, which sold because it was half the price of the model s. You don’t seem to fully grasp the industry history here.
'Kay. Now explain why Ford’s Q2 sales increased…
I don’t think you can say on one hand they are “losing money on every EV” and that they don’t want to sell economical cars. But they are still a corporation and will take as much as customers will pay.
I’d argue that Rivian makes a vehicle that operates like a normal vehicle and the “tech” part (infotainment) basically gets out of your way. Not much difference between Ford’s vertical screen and Rivian’s horizontal one outside the software that runs on it. That’s the mark of a good vehicle, IMO. That it’s a vehicle, and anything else it can do comes at a distant second place.
GM and Ford, and every other automaker have adopted the infotainment craze. Some have done it better than others, some companies have tried to force it on users while the quality is far below what it should be (Tesla). But you’re going to be hard pressed to find a new Ford or GM vehicle that doesn’t come standard with a touch screen interface these days.
I suspect the fact that they killed it tells you exactly how many people had been looking forward to it. Nobody. The market for $100k behemoth SUVs is pretty well tapped out, and Ford almost certainly knew they weren’t going to actually sell any. I don’t know why it’s a bad idea to scrap a vehicle that absolutely isn’t going to sell in numbers worth manufacturing.
More lies about timelines and features, with more social media team arguing anybody not saying it’s flawless is a “short”. That’s my bet based on the past 10 years of nonsense.