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  • makyo@lemmy.worldtoCasual UK@feddit.uk*Sigh*
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    18 days ago

    Here’s the thing. You said a “dove is a pigeon.”

    Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.

    As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

    If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.

    So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.

    Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.

    It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?




  • IMO it’s even worse than that. At least from what I gather from the AI/Singularity communities I follow. For them, AGI is the end goal - a creative thinking AI capable of deduction far greater than humanity. The company that owns that suddenly has the capability to solve all manner of problems that are slowing down technological advancement. Obviously owning that would be worth trillions.

    However it’s really hard to see through the smoke that the Altmans etc. are putting up - how much of it is actual genuine prediction and how much is fairy tales they’re telling to get more investment?

    And I’d have a hard time believing it isn’t mostly the latter because while LLMs have made some pretty impressive advancements, they still can’t have specialized discussions about pretty much anything without hallucinating answers. I have a test I use for each new generation of LLMs where I interview them about a book I’m relatively familiar with and even with the newest ChatGPT model, it still makes up a ton of shit, even often contradicting its own answers in that thread, all the while absolutely confident that it’s familiar with the source material.

    Honestly, I’ll believe they’re capable of advancing AI when we get an AI that can say ‘I actually am not sure about that, let me do a search…’ or something like that.










  • I’m American and also know the continents are called that and also don’t always want to be called American. But that’s the standard and what everyone uses to refer to us, until I meet some pedant who thinks they’re clever and trying to prove some kind of point as if I didn’t know or as if I chose that word myself.