Agree that passkeys are the direction we seem to be headed, much to my chagrin.

I agree with the technical advantages. Where passkeys make me uneasy is when considering their disadvantages, which I see primarily as:

• Lack of user support for disaster recovery - let’s say you have a single smartphone with your passkeys and it falls off a bridge. You’d like to replace it but you can’t access any of your accounts because your passkey is tied to your phone. Now you’re basically locked out of the internet until you’re able to set up a new phone and sufficiently validate your identity with your identity provider and get a new passkey.
• Consolidating access to one’s digital life to a small subset of identity providers. Most users will probably allow Apple/Google/etc to become the single gatekeeper to their digital identity. I know this isn’t a requirement of the technology, but I’ve interacted with users for long enough to see where this is headed. What’s the recourse for when someone uses social engineering to reset your passkey and an attacker is then able to fully assume your identity across a wide array of sites?
• What does liability look like if your identity provider is coerced into sharing your passkey? In the past this would only provide access to a single account, but with passkeys it could open the door to a collection of your personal info.

There’s no silver bullet for the authentication problem, and I don’t think the passkey is an exception. What the passkey does provide is relief from credential stuffing, and I’m certain that consumer-facing websites see that as a massive advantage so I expect that eventually passwords will be relegated to the tomes of history, though it will likely be quite a slow process.

What is your suggestion for a superior solution to the problems passwords solve?

What an absolute failure of the legal system to understand the issue at hand and appropriately assign liability.

Here’s an article with more context, but tl;dr the “hackers” used credential stuffing, meaning that they used username and password combos that were breached from other sites. The users were reusing weak password combinations and 23andme only had visibility into legitimate login attempts with accurate username and password combos.

Arguably 23andme should not have built out their internal data sharing service quite so broadly, but presumably many users are looking to find long lost relatives, so I understand the rationale for it.

Thus continues the long, sorrowful, swan song of the password.

I love the design aesthetic Hyundai has been following over the last few years and this concept is no exception.

I disagree. Providing a summary of an article to attempt to please Lemmy’s fickle users should absolutely not be a prerequisite to share articles here.

Also, as another user pointed out, this information wasn’t even available in OP’s link. You clicked through to another article from 2022. Is every post here intended to be a research project? This is how we discourage content from being shared. If you want this info feel free to do your own research and post it in the comments as you’ve done here, without the snarky remarks.

Lastly, as I seemingly cannot help myself, what in the absolute world are you on about with, “the ICE model starts at just under 40k$.” What ICE model was discussed in either article?

Not to mention they’re probably paying double for it - once through their taxes for the public school the kids aren’t attending plus the tuition for the private school.

Ah the ol’ security by obscurity plan. Classic.

Sounds weird from inside the echo chamber though

¿Porque no los dos?

Why couldn’t it be both?

Respectfully, you were the one who pointed out the impact of the Network Effect.

The adoption of a product by an additional user can be broken into two effects: an increase in the value to all other users (total effect) and also the enhancement of other non-users’ motivation for using the product (marginal effect).

Thus, users don’t need to understand the credentials of the platform if the network effect is strong enough, but as users leave the network, the value (credentials) of the platform as a whole decreases.

Another way to think about it is that the amount Twitter “matters” is directly related to how much we collectively agree it matters. While not directly transferable, I’d suggest that Keynes’ Animal Spirits concept can help us to understand why this might be the case - prevailing attitudes towards a platform can have a profound impact on their value.

Counterpoint: Twitter will continue to maintain a critical mass of users until enough people move somewhere else to make it irrelevant. Continuing to use it only serves to further credentialize the platform, making it even less likely that users will find a new home someplace else.

It’s not much but they try a whole lot more than most.

I couldn’t disagree more vehemently.

This program might make sense if we had some ~200 million EVs sitting around gathering dust, but there simply aren’t enough EVs, batteries, or available lithium for a program like this to make any sense economically.

Plus, what are we supposed to do with all of the relatively new ICE vehicles that get traded? Just put them in a dump somewhere?

No, the infrastructure isn’t nearly in place at this point and EVs aren’t a perfect solution for everyone. There’s no reason we need to try to switch everything all at once. We will be likely be transitioning for 50+ years, and that’s okay.

This is exactly what PG&E is hoping for, yes. ⭐

One of the few laws that we haven’t sorted out a way to break!

Agree that it depends on decision factors relating to my lifestyle. This may be an unpopular opinion around here, but I bought an EV for the performance, convenience, and maintenance advantages. Solving for decreased carbon emissions was not really a factor in the decision.

I don’t really buy into the “individual responsibility” argument that many environmentalists put forward as a solution. The solutions I consider most viable all require changing incentives at the societal level, such as subsidizing carbon free energy production, increasing taxes / decreasing tax breaks for petroleum products, etc. Stuff that impacts the way millions of people make decisions that impact the environment.

The statement you’re making probably isn’t factually incorrect, it just isn’t relevant to my situation.

It sounds like we’re on exactly the same page here and we simply have different usage expectations. We definitely agree on the value of being able to fuel the car anytime it is parked. One of the best things about EVs!

I tend to drive frequently to different attractions while on vacation, while it sounds like you might be the type of person who likes to get away to a cabin and try to avoid hustle and bustle for a few days. In your scenario the level 1 charging has plenty of time to do the job, whereas I’d have range anxiety the whole time because I’m usually on the go. 😅

Eh, 120V recharges ~5mi in an hour on my car, whereas 240V gives ~21mi/hr.

Practically speaking, if I drive 200 miles in a day, I can recharge at 240V in under 10 hours, so overnight is generally enough. Charging at 120V would take ~40 hours. If I’m on a trip 200 miles from home, 120V charging is simply untenable and the 120V charge is just a stop gap to get me to a public fast charger.

The same one they have now, perhaps with a steeper learning curve. The market for software developers is already saturated with disillusioned junior devs who attended a boot camp with promises of 6 figure salaries. Some of them did really well, but many others ran headlong into the fact that it takes a lot more passion than a boot camp to stand out as a junior dev.

From what I understand, it’s rough out there for junior devs in certain sectors.

Hey no worries, we all have those moments 😂