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    When I said you can joke about everything, I meant every fucking thing including religions.

    But if your joke repertoire is ‘lol women belong in the kitchen’s amirite?! Trans attack helicopter LOL!’, that makes you a bigoted asshole, yes.

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      Btw downwotes and dogma are your problem, not my problem. Dogmas stop knowledge and damage the people subject to them. No wonder that american technology have a lesser advantage against other countries.

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          In the soviet union the government, in the bresnev era, sent the dissidents in psychiatric facilities. Are you at the same level of dogmatic conformism of the late soviet communism? It is so disturbing to ear different ideas?

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              Clearly what? Clearly having different opinion is a mental disease? Interesting point.

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                No, the issue isn’t that you have a different opinion, it’s that you ramble about irrelevant things in a crazy word salad

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                  No problem, i have discussed about religion and morale with most of known religion and i understand that some topics are taboo. No problem, every religion/ideology have these.

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                    I literally told you that you can joke about everything, how do you end up with making this weird ass comment about religions and taboos?

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      It is your religion and your morale, the downvotes tell me, even if i have made no jokes at all, that the faith in this new religion it is not only strong, but you denied that it is a faith too. An universal set of values without the minimal possibility of discussion, even ipotetical, what it is?

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          You ( and other people ) downvote me cause i’m having a different prospective about modern ideologies ( otherwise known as modern religions ). You even doesn’t recognise the religious part of your thought. That’s is interesting from a philosofical point of view.

          Btw: the equivalence between religion and modern ideologies it is not my idea, you can find the same concept in a lot of ( more or less ) modern philosofical works.

          Edit: in reality if you do not admit that your belief it is not a religion, you cannot have not believers, so your dogma became de facto universal.

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            Firstly, I didn’t downvote you, second I’m literally telling you you can joke about everything, but if your jokes are bigoted people will call you a fucking bigot. That’s how things work. Why are you rambling about dogmas and shit?

            If you’re an asshole and people call you an asshole, it’s not a religious dogma. It’s because you’re an asshole.

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              Bigot, infidel, capitalist, traitor: various nouances of the same phenomenon.

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                No. Bigot had a specific meaning that is different from the specific meanings of the other words in your list.

                My dude, idk what to tell you. You can joke about everything, including trans people and w/e.

                But if your jokes are shit and bigoted, people will call you a shit bigot.

                If you’re angry at being called a shit bigot, stop making shit, bigoted jokes. It’s not hard, vast majority of people are able to come up with actually funny jokes that don’t punch down

                There’s tons of funny trans jokes that don’t punch down or stem from a bigoted stereotype.

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                  I have made no jokes and i’m surprised to not been banned. I’m not angry and i doesn’t care at all about your beliefs that i found quite strange. So, from an external point of view, i try to understand the self consciousness of your religion.

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                    Holy fuck you’re dumber than a box of rocks.

                    This entire conversation stemmed from you saying something along the lines of ‘can I joke about trans people’ or something like that I can’t be arsed to look back.

                    I told you yes, but if your jokes are shit then people will rightfully call you out.

                    You then went in this weird ass tangent about dogmas and shit like… My brother in Christ what kind of drugs are you on?

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            Bruh.

            You ramble nonsensically like someone off of their meds. THAT is why you get downvoted - your comments add nothing of value to the conversation.