!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

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Lemmy.world has released an official response.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    To be honest, it’s not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.

    I just wish this wasn’t done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.

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      Don’t need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.

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        One of the most popular instance. This is why federation is necessary and people should create accounts in different servers instead of pulling everyone to one server calling it tge “official” or “main” server

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        At least they blocked a community and not the entire instance. This is how these things should be handled, imo

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      So beehaw was right whey they defederated from .world, there is shadiness there…

      PS: this is one of the best communities in the fediverse, good job.

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        Beehaw’s reasons for defederation were completely unrelated to what’s happening now. They didn’t want the general public to have access to their “safe” community.

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          there’s more to “the general public” besides 2 instances. beehaw defederated from .world and sijw because the mod tooling to handle a huge influx of people isn’t ready, and it still isn’t ready. (and the rest of their defederations are an off the shelf mastodon blocklist import which all instances should do imo and a few explicitly unmoderated instances. oh and porn i think)

          beehaw federates just fine with the instance i’m on, for example.

          if they wanted to defederate completely, lemmy does support allowlist federation, and i’m pretty sure their admins know about it.

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    Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They’re down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn’t fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It’s also one of the most recommended Lemmy’s with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

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      I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

      I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I’m reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

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        We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they’re defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won’t defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

        There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I’m not aware of any that will do the latter. I don’t understand why, it can’t be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

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            Some time and tinkering.

            It’s quite straightforward (especially if you don’t use nginx or need email) to use the docker install.

            So you need a Linux box (IDK about windows) a fix IP with a port routed to your machine and some free time. Oh yeah a domain name pointing to said IP.

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                It’s definitely achievable and I’d encourage anyone to play around with self hosting.

                The main thing to acknowledge before getting started is that it’s an ongoing commitment, like a puppy. Getting it to work initially is the easy part, you can follow a guide and have something working in a few hours of effort. Running in to problems later on is the tricky part, automated backups and upgrades et cetera, something needs a re-start, things just stop working for some reason.

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                  Ah yeah, I can imagine it’s not a one and done thing, you’d have to do a lot of support with your server, can see it being a massive time sink

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      A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

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        I did it the moment they decided not to defederate from Meta. I don’t like admins who can’t take decisive actions to protect their users (and apparently seem to bend their knees to any big corpo out there)

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      100% spot on. I got called all sorts of names for pointing this out, but maybe my own fault for pointing it out on one of their posts! 😅

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      The snitch came from your instance btw. Keep an eye out for @Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee

      I deleted my .world account

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      I think lemmy.world gather the kind of redditors that like sanitized world views, the power of decentralization makes us choose an instance without those hot garbaje takes as lemmy.world.

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      They should have shut down registrations a long time before they gained such a majority of users.

      They stand behind the lie that “if we didn’t let people in, they wouldn’t know where to go”… as if it’s so hard to create a new registration page that re-routes people to other instances.

      I’ll never understand the selfishness of people like that. They know they’re actively hurting all of lemmy, but they want to keep all the users to themselves. This thing only works if it’s a collection of smaller instances.

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    Was to lazy to change instances even though .world was always down. Actively censoring made me finally pull the plug. Thanks for helping me out I guess

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    I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit

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    This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don’t like for whatever silly reason they can’t reveal to the public.

    Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.

    Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.

    If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.

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    Its fair enough. They gotta protect their ass.

    I just logged into a user made on this instance. Problem solved. And lemmy.world has had a ton of downtime anyway. Always trouble loading comments and often trouble loading posts

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    The best part is lemmy.world notified its users of this change on…discord. lol

    Great social media site, where you notify end users of major changes on another platform entirely.

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    Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?

    I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.

    Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.

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      TBF it doesn’t seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I’ve still moved on to another instance.

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        This 100%

        I don’t know why people are making this dramatic, this was absolutely a functional and pragmatic decision.

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    I mean, the great thing about federation is that you can just have different accounts for different servers

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        Doesn’t matter who started it, all that matters is how the admins handle it. If all it takes is a new user asking for a community or instance to be blocked/de-federated and it just happens no questions asked, the admin in charge are to blame, not the person for asking.

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    wow, and they only announce it in their discord. fuck lemmy.world

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    The reason why I have a lemmy account is to be a part of the piracy community. My account is also registered on this instance. So as long as I am able to access this community I am good. Plus making a second account on lemmy.world for the communities on therewill take literally seconds . Absolutely no need to panic.