• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    that’s a whole lot of words used to sell tiktok as a fun wholesome platform…

    I’m getting strong “both sides are the same” vibes from that wall of text.

    tiktok will be the first(of many) apps that will be removed from access within the US. why? to protect the people from outside influence and to protect national defense.

    I’m not here to argue about the shit the US has or is doing that’s the same or better or worse than China. I don’t care because, it’s a red herring.

    tiktok has a well known and documented history of lying about their privacy protections. on the record they have sold American user data to Chinese backed MICs.

    it’s a threat to national security. the end.

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      to protect the people from outside influence and to protect national defense.

      Thats just not true, otherwise we wouldn’t be welcoming a South African who illegally immigrated to the US and has some serious international conflicts-of-interests with US interests control a major social media platform.

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        Thats just not true, otherwise we wouldn’t be welcoming a South African who illegally immigrated to the US and has some serious international conflicts-of-interests with US interests control a major social media platform.

        strawman gonna strawman.

        I didn’t vote for him. did you?

        you act like it’s the current administration that let’s Elon do whatever he does, but it’s the incoming administration (Trump) that is allowing that.

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          strawman gonna strawman.

          Hardly a strawman! We have a major social media company in the US, that is controlled by a foreigner, for their own, and for foreign interests, and impacting our elections with measureable results.

          So, obviously, this move wasn’t done to prevent such a thing from happening, just to prevent certain countries from doing it.

          you act like it’s the current administration that let’s Elon do whatever he does, but it’s the incoming administration (Trump) that is allowing that.

          Our current admin has done nothing to stop it, and therefore allowing it.

          Why are all the US Gov accounts STILL on Twitter?

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            Hardly a strawman! We have a major social media company in the US, that is controlled by a foreigner, for their own, and for foreign interests, and impacting our elections with measureable results.

            are you even taking this seriously? did you not even comprehend what I said or are you just blindly responding hoping for a “gotcha”?

            So, obviously, this move wasn’t done to prevent such a thing from happening, just to prevent certain countries from doing it.

            not obvious, and just because you say it with more conviction doesn’t make it true.

            Our current admin has done nothing to stop it, and therefore allowing it.

            by that logic, then you’re just as guilty for allowing them to do nothing. so what gives you the right to complaint about it if you haven’t done anything to stop them?

            Why are all the US Gov accounts STILL on Twitter?

            there are so many reasons why but you’re just too emotional and inexperienced to see them, but I’ll point out a couple just so you can see how absurd you’re being.

            • government moves slow, it takes years to move a major communications component
            • red tape slows the process down even more, budgetary concerns, compliance requirements, contractual obligations
            • lack of existing choices that have the same scope of reach to Americans
            • popularity of the platform for Americans

            my advice, sit down and listen before you go off half cocked.

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      You actually tricked yourself into believing this isn’t all about shutting down competition to American companies or stopping people’s (especially young people’s) power to disseminate even remotely left leaning views that could gain traction and threaten the oligarchs.

      I mean even the politicians who back this bill state as much, so I’m not sure why you think this is about national defense. American citizens are just under as much threat as before, but now they have one less way to express themselves. Ain’t that great. /s

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        You actually tricked yourself into believing this isn’t all about shutting down competition to American companies or stopping people’s (especially young people’s) power to disseminate even remotely left leaning views that could gain traction and threaten the oligarchs.

        I didn’t though. and choosing an app to post memes is not a “power to disseminate”. that’s just childish to believe.

        I mean even the politicians who back this bill state as much, so I’m not sure why you think this is about national defense. American citizens are just under as much threat as before, but now they have one less way to express themselves. Ain’t that great. /s

        lies unless you can prove they stated that in an official capacity, disingenuous at best. Americans have the same amount of ways to express themselves today as they will tomorrow.

        you honestly believe that an app will aid you in expressing yourself more? now who’s tricking themselves? be it an app that’s federated, Chinese, corporate, etc; you will never express yourself more than when you do it yourself. all these “apps” are distractions that bring much hand wringing and gnashing of teeth that force you into a little box so you can pretend you made a difference. social media apps are the “thoughts and prayers” of the 21st century.

        so please forgive me for not takings your musings on one media platform over another seriously.

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        It can be a corporate move to out competition AND also improve security. These are not mutually exclusive.