They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.
Are they religious? You can use that against them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_drowning_man
Tell them Covid is Satan’s doing, and God sent the vaccines.