Cope and seethe all you want, but a house is a house is a house is a home. An apartment is a box in the sky, really just a big room. And you don’t get to pick your housemates. So you bought a great apartment and everything is lovely and then some asshole rents the unit next to you and starts having parties, getting his junkie friends visiting all the time. Sure you call the police but they have more important stuff to do.
A house is a house. Everyone should have a house. The left should abandon minimalist loser politics. Everyone gets a house!
‘yes it’s true’ except it’s objectively not, there’s about two and a half trillion acres in the United States and only 330 million people, there’s over a billion acres of actively productive arable land alone.
And no you don’t need to bulldozer nature, learn to live as part of it and be a positive impact on the worlds ecosystems. Low impact living and permaculture gardens with local sustainable food networks are far better than cities on every metric
There are many chunks of that they are unliveable. Also who said this discusion only involved the US? Do you think erasing farms from existence would some how be a good idea? Or are you in favor of people returning to agrocultural serfdom?
The numbers are the same for the rest of the world, it’s a huge planet.
And yes monoculture industrial farms are awfull for the planet and bad by every other metric. Community produce exchanges and permaculture gardens is the best solution, automated tools for home growing should be a key focus of government r&d budgets.
Your source says even just land currently used for grazing livestock is more than enough to house everyone, that’s without considering all the land already used for habitation and etc.
It really is a very big planet, I don’t know if you hate people and want them to suffer or what your deal is but you’re welcome to live in the smallest box you can find, don’t try and force the rest of us to though.
An apartment is a box in the sky, really just a big room.
You realize that not every apartment is a studio in a skyscraper, right?
and then some asshole rents the unit next to you and starts having parties, getting his junkie friends visiting all the time
How is this different from an asshole moving into the house next door?
A house is a house. Everyone should have a house.
Houses are fine. The big problem with them is that most are in a boring sprawling soulless suburbia. The most important thing about where you live isn’t the physical structure itself but location, location, location.
The other big problem is most places in the US and Canada make it literally illegal to build anything but a detached, single-family house. If houses are really what people want, why are the alternatives literally illegal in most places?
Houses offer more sound insulation because of all the air that’s between the two houses. In an apartment, even a big one, if someone is doing renovations you’ll hear it because sound travel faster and better through solid matter.
As for sprawling suburbia, I am very against that. I’m for a more european village-like layout.
How is this different from an asshole moving into the house next door?
What a silly question. You don’t share walls, hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines, and parking lots with your neighbors when you live in a house. Honestly, have you ever even lived in an apartment?
I’ve literally never had a problem sharing hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines and parking lots with people.
The only problem you tend to have with neighbors is noise. And you can easily get that in suburbia as well, particularly if they’re throwing noisy late night parties.
It’s funny how every time we come up with a funny insult to describe you people, you just take that same exact phrase and use it against us without understanding what the hell it means.
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Houses > Apartments
Cope and seethe all you want, but a house is a house is a house is a home. An apartment is a box in the sky, really just a big room. And you don’t get to pick your housemates. So you bought a great apartment and everything is lovely and then some asshole rents the unit next to you and starts having parties, getting his junkie friends visiting all the time. Sure you call the police but they have more important stuff to do.
A house is a house. Everyone should have a house. The left should abandon minimalist loser politics. Everyone gets a house!
There isnt enough land on the planet for everyone to own a house. And why even stop at a house. Everyone should owm multiple acres and homestead.
We can build houses vertically on large planes. Kind of like the hanging gardens.
That’s not even close to true, and yes everyone should own an acre of land
Yes lets bulldoze all of nature so everyone can own a house. And yes it is true.
‘yes it’s true’ except it’s objectively not, there’s about two and a half trillion acres in the United States and only 330 million people, there’s over a billion acres of actively productive arable land alone.
And no you don’t need to bulldozer nature, learn to live as part of it and be a positive impact on the worlds ecosystems. Low impact living and permaculture gardens with local sustainable food networks are far better than cities on every metric
There are many chunks of that they are unliveable. Also who said this discusion only involved the US? Do you think erasing farms from existence would some how be a good idea? Or are you in favor of people returning to agrocultural serfdom?
The numbers are the same for the rest of the world, it’s a huge planet.
And yes monoculture industrial farms are awfull for the planet and bad by every other metric. Community produce exchanges and permaculture gardens is the best solution, automated tools for home growing should be a key focus of government r&d budgets.
You really overestimate the space we have. Here is an overview on land usage: https://ourworldindata.org/land-use
Try to calculate how many people we can have if everyone lives in a si gle family home.
Your source says even just land currently used for grazing livestock is more than enough to house everyone, that’s without considering all the land already used for habitation and etc.
It really is a very big planet, I don’t know if you hate people and want them to suffer or what your deal is but you’re welcome to live in the smallest box you can find, don’t try and force the rest of us to though.
You realize that not every apartment is a studio in a skyscraper, right?
How is this different from an asshole moving into the house next door?
Houses are fine. The big problem with them is that most are in a boring sprawling soulless suburbia. The most important thing about where you live isn’t the physical structure itself but location, location, location.
The other big problem is most places in the US and Canada make it literally illegal to build anything but a detached, single-family house. If houses are really what people want, why are the alternatives literally illegal in most places?
I would say quality archetecture has way more to do with quality of life. I wouldnt say beach bums have a high quality of life and yet “location”.
Houses offer more sound insulation because of all the air that’s between the two houses. In an apartment, even a big one, if someone is doing renovations you’ll hear it because sound travel faster and better through solid matter.
As for sprawling suburbia, I am very against that. I’m for a more european village-like layout.
What a silly question. You don’t share walls, hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines, and parking lots with your neighbors when you live in a house. Honestly, have you ever even lived in an apartment?
I’ve literally never had a problem sharing hallways, mailboxes, front doors, laundry machines and parking lots with people.
The only problem you tend to have with neighbors is noise. And you can easily get that in suburbia as well, particularly if they’re throwing noisy late night parties.
It’s funny how every time we come up with a funny insult to describe you people, you just take that same exact phrase and use it against us without understanding what the hell it means.
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