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Title text: This is how you all fucking sound

[A smug tech bro wearing a sideways cap, watch, chain around his neck stands in front of a data center by a lake with dead fish. A smoke stack blows pollution into the air]

Tech bro: AI is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a suit with cigarette in hand stands in a restaurant while two disgruntled diners cough from the smoke]

Suit: Smoking indoors is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug man in a top hat and suit stands in a factory with two sad and dirty children]

Hat: Child labor is already here, there’s no going back.

[A smug plantation owner stands in front of a field with with two angry slaves]

Plantation owner: The Atlantic Slave trade is already here, there’s no going back.

Still Vreni on Bluesky

  • canniest_tod@lemmy.world
    181·
    2 days ago

    None of those things were new technology. The assembly line didn’t go away when people were angry about being laid off.

    If you’re talking about a specific product of AI (“art” for example), you might want to make that clearer. If you’re talking about AI in general, you’re treating this one thing like it’s a reason to try turning back the clock.

    The rational thing to do would be getting politically involved to get AI out of corporate ownership.

    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      1 day ago

      Is there something about new technology that affects economic incentives in a way unlike anything else before it?

      If you light a cigar in a room, the smoke makes people cough, but if you start your crank-engine car next to a picnic table, the gas just doesn’t exist?

      Slavery is so lucrative a deal that we still do it.

      • canniest_tod@lemmy.world
        1·
        17 hours ago

        If you want to try to get rid of it, I can’t stop you. I’m unaware of an example of that ever working, though. I think it’s better to seize that tech from the people who would likely use it to make people’s lives worse.

        • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          1·
          10 hours ago

          Okay, this:

          If you want to try to get rid of it, I can’t stop you. I’m unaware of an example of that ever working, though.

          And this:

          I think it’s better to seize that tech from the people who would likely use it to make people’s lives worse.

          Are irreconcilable positions.

          If you don’t believe we can stop it, how are we going to seize it? Do you think that “seize” means “have access to”? Merely having access is not going to stop anyone from using it to make your life worse.

          • canniest_tod@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 hours ago

            They’re not irreconcilable when you read them, lol. I’m saying you have a choice between two options, but one is guaranteed not to work (trying to get rid of AI).

            I don’t know how to seize AI, but I imagine you’d have to break the law to some extent. Maybe get comfortable with that, for starters.

            • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              4 hours ago

              Yes, they are. You simultaneously believe that we cannot do anything and that we are capable of assuming control of it.

              Since we’re just speaking in vague probabilities anyway, you know what else is “not going to happen”? You panic rolling out from underneath Sam Altman’s thumb. This is oligarch technology, and it will stay oligarch technology. Netflix will cost $40 a month, gas prices will rise to $25 a gallon, Nintendo will make $170 video games an industry standard, Reddit will always be more popular than Lemmy, there will never be a year of the Linux desktop, and there is nothing you can do about any of it.

    • Monte_Crisco@thelemmy.club
      5·
      2 days ago

      I think another reasonable thing is for our justice systems to tie human responsibility/culpability to the actions of AI (or whatever we may be calling these computing advancements in the future).

      • canniest_tod@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 days ago

        Wish in one hand…

        American justice isn’t a guarantee, and until political action comes back into style we can’t expect good outcomes.