• EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You want to say children who commit horrible crimes should face no punishment because they were young? Sorry but…yes. If a kid does something this horrible they need to face charges. Not charged as an adult but…yep.

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      9 months ago

      Nah their parent or guardian need charges, because at 10 you need to be provided the means the accomplish anything, including crime.

      If you provide a monkey a flamethrower and let it loose in a building, they aren’t charging the monkey with arson.

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        9 months ago

        Sure we need to figure out if the parents put her up to this as well. But we don’t even know thats the case here. For all we know she heard the word somewhere and thought it would be fun to claim this. People, even children, need to face up to what they have done. Just curious, in your version of the legal system you want us to start using…at what age do we ignore what a child has done and only punish the adults? 18 when they are legally an adult themselves?

        Also…The monkey in your analogy would, beyond a shadow of a doubt, be killed because it was a threat. Nobody would even think twice about putting a bullet in it.

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          If you look at the Wikipedia entry for “age of criminal responsibility,” quite a few countries think that children under a certain age just plain cannot be held responsible for a crime. Of course, in the US it’s different and there are some states where age does exempt from responsibility and some where it doesn’t.

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          9 months ago

          For me it’s a slider, the older the more responsible, at 15 I would agree with you, but 10 I definitely think the parents should be the ones in court.

          Would the monkey really be put down tho ? If it still holds the flamethrower of course, because it’s still a threat, but after the fact I don’t think so.

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          9 months ago

          Not “put her up to it”… 'allowed the behaviour"

          There’s the other article about a 17 year old being killed during a welfare check so getting put down doesn’t seem to make a distinction.

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        9 months ago

        If you provide a monkey a flamethrower and let it loose in a building, they aren’t charging the monkey with arson.

        Yeah, but you don’t need to convict a monkey of a crime to put it in a cage.

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      9 months ago

      Children in these situations don’t need incarceration they need therapy and rehabilitation. Putting them behind bars is just a waste at best, and doesn’t in any way make the world a better place.

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        9 months ago

        I think sometimes people respond to punishment. They/we don’t want the consequences of an action so we change our behavior. With that said, our prison system is terrible. A person’s punishment should be loss of freedom (only). IMO we should still treat prisoners with some dignity and they should be safe and reasonably comfortable.

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      9 months ago

      I just say civilised cultures don’t imprison a child for a dumb lie. Because you said

      Whatever she is just lock her up.

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      9 months ago

      At the very least, those are kids who need an evaluation and probably some sort of therapy to help them become reasonably well-adjusted adults. Try and correct their course early so they won’t go so far astray.