• marzhall@lemmy.world
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      They’re paperclip optimizers. We’ve designed an economy that said “make people compete for dollars, it’ll give us the best products” and sure enough the people who rise to the top do nothing but ruthlessly compete on getting dollars. And just like the thought experiment, in the race to gather more dollars, they trample the human race.

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      Nah. They are human. To deny that is to deny that which makes a person stoop so low as to become a CEO (rhyme initially not intended but damnit I’ll still take credit for it)

      Plus, I respect rats too much to demean them like that

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      This is dehumanization. It is the tool of the enemy. We do not need it. We will not use it.

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      If you dehumanize persons, you aren’t a leftist or revolutionary or the resistance or an activist. You are a fascist.

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        Ok, I see your point but in a fascist society, what else can you do to stop him? Harsh language? A lawsuit you can’t afford?

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          Oh, violence, even lethal violence might be necessary in defense of self or others. But, we must not deny that we are dealing with persons. I’m not even saying don’t dox the guy, I’m saying that don’t forget that you are doxing a person.

          The focus should be on rehabilitating the person and remediating any harm they have caused, not on returning harm with harm. Of course, if they are being violent or legitimately threatening violence, defensive violence SHOULD be taken to contain/control/remove the threat.

          Violating his privacy might be a good lesson in how “we should balance privacy and safety” as part of his rehabilitation, but we can do that without dehumanization.

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            Agreed. And as @noxypaws@pawb.social have said, it is important to realise and remain vigilant that humans can be capable of great harm, and that we ourselves are not immune if we’re not carefully with ourselves. Otherwise we might ourselves becomes grown complacent and reproduce those harms on others in some form or another.

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        You are a fascist.

        whatever. so be it. those persons have lost their humanity. they are doing anything to the detriment of the common people, for the sake of it. we well get nowhere until they can continue what they are doing, guaranteed. no, that’s not even true, we are literally going backwards to the dark ages.

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          I don’t wasn’t fascists dehumanized. I do want lots of things for them but humanity doesn’t get to ignore its worst aspects.

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          I deally I want to go with the batman thing but you see so many of them ok with such cruelty for money and actually sometimes for no real return they just seem to like it. Certainly looks like monsters to me.

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            Yeah but that wasn’t the point. Besides, it may feel righteous but it doesn’t do us any good, quite the opposite.