• Armand1@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    The exit plan from WhatsApp is quite simple. Start by installing Signal and setting it up – it takes only a couple of minutes. Then, resume any WhatsApp conversations on Signal if that person is already a Signal user. If they are not, then switch to regular text messaging and gently suggest to that person to switch over to Signal.

    Sadly for me, this doesn’t really work for some relatives as

    • They live abroad and the cost of sending text messages abroad is not insignificant
    • Some are so tech un-savvy that even installing a new app by themselves is too much.

    All I can do for those relatives is to leave WhatsApp installed but take away basically every permission I can, including running in the background.

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      17 hours ago

      They live abroad and the cost of sending text messages abroad is not insignificant

      Signal is free just like whats app. For text, calls, and video. So that isn’t a problem.

      I too have friends and family in different countries, one of which is crazy about whatsapp. I simply tell them this is how we are going to do things now, and walk them through it. It is not hard. If they can’t do it, well then we don’t need to communicate this way. Whatsapp is not an option. It is that simple.

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        16 hours ago

        Signal is not capable of SMS and quite a lot of people still use it.

        yes, i know SMS isn’t secure at all. but if the option is “keep in touch with close family” or “don’t keep in touch” they will probably choose the former if they want to keep that.

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          16 hours ago

          I would rather SMS than use WhatsApp. But even then if my family is far away, why am texting them at all very often? With the time zone differences I’ll call or email, or nothing. It’s weird how people got along just fine with letters that took weeks and suddenly we now need instant communication for some reason?

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            14 hours ago

            we used to be fine with candles and stinky lanterns filled with perfectly good kerosene too. who tf needs electricity? 🤨

            on the topic of family connection, I can’t speak to your family experience. only my own. and our family group chat is pretty damn active.

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              12 hours ago

              Did you get everyone to settle on the same thing, like Signal? We are spread out over about 8 countries, and with all the different phone numbers and plans, we use various methods, with several of us on Signal. Some on whatsapp, some on messenger. So we are not coordinated enough for a group chat. Which is fine, I dont really need to know everything all the time, we catch up when can, or get into small video chats occasionally. Luckily we do tend to physically see each other somewhat frequently.

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                11 hours ago

                no we are all on different platforms. half are on android and half are on apple which is irritating. so sadly the sms is our best tool to hit everyone at the same time with any urgency.

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            15 hours ago

            How is that weird? You can be fine with suboptimal stuff, and recognize it’s suboptimal. Some people like their relatives and wished they could talk together more readily. Letters were just the fastest (while economical) method of doing that for a while.

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      15 hours ago

      How did they get WhatsApp installed? Is a FaceTime or other video option available? Never give up, never surrender

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        6 hours ago

        I was with them helping them out. For reasons I won’t discuss here I won’t be able to visit them anymore, so that avenue is gone 😞.