• Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet. The right wing state can literally disappear your family and you still shit talk the left.

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      Reminder that Fox News was created in the wake of Watergate specifically because media coverage of the scandal went from non-existent to shifting public opinion against it in weeks. It was created to be a dedicated Republican party propaganda platform to prevent that from ever happening again.

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        Nixon aides wanted a pro-administration network, and some of them were eventually instrumental in getting Fox News going, but it took over 20 years between Watergate and the launch of FNC.

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            No they meant watergate, Roger Ailes, the founding CEO of Fox News, was Nixon’s media guy during watergate.

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                For sure, but Watergate was specifically the spark that inspired them.

                The comment you replied to included the caveat “eventually”, but the whitewater scandal was almost the opposite, as it was largely the right wing looking for scandals to promote on places like Fox News.

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        It was created to be a dedicated Republican party propaganda platform

        It worked too well.

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      I really wanna say you’re wrong and I really can’t. All I can ask is that you please not lump us all together into one homogeneous group. There are quite a few of us who are actually sane.

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        We know that.

        But that didn’t stop ALL the german being called nazi after WWII and all being appalled by their (in)action and the pain their nation did to others.

        I had a German colleague apologizing to me for his ancestors actions (who killed some family members at my grandparents generation). None of us were born when that happened but he wanted to say it as he was ashamed by his grandparents (in)actions. I was sad for him because he didn’t do anything wrong but he was taking the weight of his nation history personally.

        Do you want to do that or - more probably - do you want your children to do that later? They will ask for forgiveness to the descendants of the people impacted today saying: “I’m sorry that my parents didn’t do anything to stop that”

        Because your ICE gestapo-like state organization is doing appalling actions TODAY in plain sight. And you - as Americans - will be remembered as people who lets this happen.

        Yep. That already happened. So we know.

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          We know that. I’ve been apologizing constantly on Lemmy. I guess I was thinking more on an individual basis 🤷‍♂️.

          Also, I’m very very sorry for all this.

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            I’m sure of that and i’m sad to see good people aware but unable to change the direction their nation takes. Must be horrible, infuriating.

            I’m worried too about the next presidential election in my country. Hope we will be able to reject fascism again in the next election cycle. Something we have to do nearly all the time since I’m able to vote.

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              They’re about to pass a bill that will absolutely gut funding and incentives for renewable energy, resulting in catastrophic damage to our industrial base, our economy, and the loss of like 150,000 construction and industry jobs. It is extremely horrible and infuriating!

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        When you allow your state to become a rightwing nightmare that destroys lives of those within and outside of your country, don’t be surprised when you are remembered as the people who allowed this to happen.