Education is the best way
Exactly why Reagan defunded higher education and every republican administration has dismantled public education.
“We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat.” Not my words, but those of the Reagan administration.
Dumbed down masses are easier to control and mindlessly consume. Exactly why GTA6 will do massive numbers while Rockstar and Sony continue their cartoon villain evil streak.
You have to convince them that they won’t someday be billionaires themselves. And, convince them they don’t want to be billionaires.
Yeah, well said. Too many people are delusional
That site that showed how rich bezos is
Explain to them exactly how much a billion dollars is, so they understand
Take control of the media.
People don’t like to admit it and they hate it when you say it usually, but TBH if you put something on blast on the news, most people will go along with it even if it’s fairly crazy. Or at least, enough people to get what you want done.
There’s a reason why oligarchs almost always buy some sort of media network once they get to a certain point of wealth.
Explain to them that you can still be a billionaire if you are dead. You can still be a senator if you are dead. Next question.
Ridicule.
when education does not work we build walls.
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While technically this solves the problem it doesn’t prevent new idiots from being made. That takes much harder, structural changes including education and new policy guard rails.
That takes much harder, structural changes including education and new policy guard rails.
Tell me how we get there when the people who support Trump are required to go along with this? (Or pick your country’s far-right equivalent of Trump)
Revolution? Civil war? Which I guess brings us back to your original solution.
Or something similar to apartheid.
The options here aren’t good. When you’ve got half of the population being taught to never trust anything the ‘bad guys’ say and those ‘bad guys’ happen to be the educated folks - what options are you left with other than varying degrees of force?
This is impossible.
Oh I think you could get conservatives to inject just about anything if a liberal tells them not to do it.
Ruthless mockery.
Probably won’t work, but at least you’ll get a laugh out of it.
Could work tbh. If you show ppl the mirror of reality of them living in dirt conditions while their favourite billionaire buys their dog a 3rd 100 sqm house, they may wake up.
Havent seen alot about musks, gates, etc spending sprees. Bezos had that wedding. Zuckerberg is buying up Hawaii. This needs to be way more prominent.
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I like that answer.
I sound like a broken record but, BAN ADVERTISING. Along with all the pretty well established secondary bad effects of advertising, the most basic direct effect of it is lying to people. If people weren’t deluged daily with lies about how they should think of this or that company, they wouldn’t be so readily deluded into thinking of a company like a person with a positive effect on their world.
only if it’s actually banned and not allowing loopholes for “the government” and “public good”
im. ok with the government advertising there’s an election coming up on date x, or be sure to get your vaccination etc but any political party advertising should be banned , their party policy platform can be on the government website but all commercial advertising should be banned.
This. ☝🏻 We gotta ban advertising.
This. ☝🏻 We gotta ban advertising.
It’s so bad that when JC Penny tried to stop deceptive pricing they almost went out of business.
When I worked in retail, the store had different price label flags for different sales, discounts, etc. One of those was “Every Day Low Price.” If something had they price it would never go on sale because they were loss leaders, even big ticket items. The prices on those were below the sale price of competitors.
Far too many times I had a person ask if something already in their cart was on sale, I’d give them the above spiel and even comparison shop for them, and every single time they’d put it back.
It was truly frustrating.
But this is kind of circular logic. We need to convince people to stop defending trillionaires in order to be able to ban advertising or make any meaningful change at all.
No, we just have to outnumber or overpower the fools who defend them. We don’t need 100% agreement, just enough to get a ban in place.
You’re three bad months away from being homeless.
You will never be three good months away from being a billionaire.
I think I could become a billionaire if I started off as a trillionaire
Naaah. If you were a trillionaire, you’d have activated the cheat code to be wealthy for at least 4 generations, and who cares about your great-grandkids really?
You under estimate my ability to buy stupid things
Billionaires do that all the time. Still living the easy life.
a billion dollars (ignoring the anti-crashing-the-market laws) is an amount someone could spend “reasonably” (look at widebody aircraft, asml euv lithography machines, and aircraft carriers) , a trillion dollars would require quite a bit of innovation to spend.
I’d invest in AI. That’ll get rid of a trillion dollars per quickly
Platforms like twitter and facebook (and many “news” companies) brainwash their users, mostly by providing multiple different lies. Users pick whichever lie appeals to them the most, and they pretend they have found the truth.
To combat this, we need to emphasize the importance of thinking critically and verifying claims.
State the facts. Correct their misconceptions. Emphasize that billionaires are intentionally killing us all; lazy thinkers might reconsider if there is a possibility their life is at stake. I’m not saying threaten them, but we are all threatened by human greed.
The people you’re talking to might not listen, but someone else might. Sometimes it just takes repetition to get through to someone, hearing the same clear message from multiple different sources.
Education. But you can clearly see the defects of the last 40 years of defunding and deriding education.
Advocate for stakeholder socialist policies like worker and consumer coöps that would render billionaires impossible.
This. Arguing with people online is – with all due respect – a complete waste of time if your goal is to change the world.
Ignore the people who have dumb opinions. It isn’t as though if you win 500 arguments Elon Musk donates all his money to Socialism.
Go join a tenant’s union or a mutual aid society. Go build the alternative world that doesn’t transfer all our money upward.
(Also, though, if you do this long enough there will likely be a revolution. But that part comes after you feed and shelter enough people that it begins to become a threat to capital. It’s downstream. Either way, don’t bother trying to persuade strangers on the internet,)
