You need an argument more compelling than “he fucks children”. Good luck.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
This is wrong take. You need to get the idiots that didint vote against him to vote. The ppl that thinks dems are lesser evil and third party is worthless. The 20 mil that voted for biden in 2020 but wouldnt for harris in 2024.
Lord knows I tried but these ppl rather wait for the progressive messiah than vote for anything less.
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They’re not going to vote for an alternative unless they’re convinced Trump is bad for them.
I have to wonder how many quiet trump voters there are and why they voted the way they did. Trump got 49.8% of the pop vote but it does not seem like 49.8% of Americans are MAGA flag-wavers. The die-hards are zealots, so basically unreachable. But there have to have been a large number who really thought of the Trump/Harris vote as selecting ‘the lesser of two evils.’ If there had been a real alternative, not even a particular affirmative position but some kind of ‘none of the above, find new candidates’ option, I have to wonder what the results could have looked like.
Maybe a third party, perhaps?
The Democrats need to be real and nominate people who Republicans might actually consider.
This sort of nonsense is why we have Democrats in Congress right now suggesting increasing the ICE budget.
What we need to radical American populism. Freedom liberty and justice for all. A candidate who stands against the wealthy class in favor of the 99%
That’s a the ideal candidate you want winning but whose going to finance that platform? I can’t see that winning the next election against the weslth and influence of the 1%. And since the US is locked into a 2 party system, you only get 1 chance to beat the Republicans, so the Democrats need to be realistic and represent all voters of today, not the idealised future.
Quick. Find a pedophile.
You don’t. They’re beyond help.
Cute. You think they are going to hold midterms.
Convince them to stay home because the election is a foregone conclusion
That’s not what you should be trying to do.
if you can convince democrats to vote, they will win because there are more of them.
Brainstorming here but you have to factor in that right wing media exists to manipulate these people. To specifically fix it, a major part is reverse engineering right wing media and crashing it.
A) prevent chuck schumer from continuing to be in office. Fascist media needs a villain, wrestling needs a heel. remove the low hanging fruit and they start infighting because how could the new guy be responsible for old problems? The “deep state” mythology exists to explain why republican policies (tax cuts) don’t produce results (prosperity).
B) make the new conservative fad to be off social media - camping or whatever it doesnt matter. Get them away from the echo chamber for five minutes and see if boredom without internet causes their brain cells to start working again. At the very least this would reduce the profitability of the media by reducing view counts.
C) People in tennessee are so pilled they thought they could vote against mamdani in the New York Mayoral election. Guerrilla education would be a funny way to combat the stupidity of MAGA. Its speculated that Trump is obsessed with greenland because he thinks its huge due to map distortion on mercator map projections. A way to show how dumb this is indirectly would be to give out free globes.
Edit: I should say it would be easier to win an election with somebody in office like Mamdani who has both charisma and good values. But since the question is specifically getting trumpers to not vote, the answers are what they are.
Its speculated that Trump is obsessed with greenland because he thinks its huge due to map distortion on mercator map projections. A way to show how dumb this is indirectly would be to give out free globes.
Tech bros pulling Stephen Miller’s puppet strings want greenland’s minerals.
Also just a side note, Greenland is roughly 3 times the size of texas. It’s not exactly “small”, even if mercator maps do make it look significantly larger than it is. (comparably to africa, lol.)
They could also fund mines there without attempting to turn it into a US territory. Imo if this was just about mines they would already have done it.
My guess would be the tech bros also want to use it as some kind of utopian bioshock style project, which is the only remotely plausible explanation for pushing it so hard.
it wont undo the damage what trump has done, and what the DNC ENABLED him to do. 8 Ds were chosen as sacrificial lambs by schumers since they arnt up for rele-election this year, to shield the other 13 dems that are.
So that’s why we need a good-enough third party?
yes, if they arnt getting astroturfed by both parties, they often collude together to prevent any change within the partys.
A gun.
Its the midterms. They’re not on the ballot.
Oh I see the joke. Continue.
I’m not sure it’s worth putting a ton of energy into trying to convince Trump voters. Many of them only come to their senses once they are personally affected by his policies.
There needs to be focus on turning out the majority of Americans who dislike Trump. That has to be done with exciting candidates who focus on our systemic problems and actually want to change things. There’s no amount of window dressing and virtue signaling you can hang of corporatists to make people enthusiastic. They must want to vote for the candidate, not just find them more tolerable.
As Mamdami showed, all you need is to give people something to vote for rather than someone to vote against.
Unfortunately with the Republicans passing the SAVE act right before the mid terms, lots of trans folk and women will find out at the ballots they cannot vote because their name doesn’t match their birth certificate so a lot of anti trump population might not get to vote!
That’s fucked up.
Well, 2026 is easy because neither of them will be on that ballot. That’s why midterms are tough for incumbents, because there’s less motivation for their party to turn out, but the aggrieved opposition are highly motivated to turn out as a referendum on the current administration.
2028, who knows
man. Anything can happen between now and then. I feel like if someone voted for Trump in 2020 or 2024 then they are terminally stupid.I’m actually non-binary, and I prefer gender-neutral and feminine terms. Seriously!
Sometimes “man” is more of an exclamation than a term of address.
I’ve noticed kids are seemingly using “bruh” this way, funnily enough
Then you need to edit the [any, any] thing. How were they to know?
Begging your pardon for that, sorry.
It’s been over a decade.
These aren’t confused people anymore.
They. Are. Traitors.
They are traitors who will do anything, up to and including electing a felon rapist insurrectionist who regularly violates the Constitution and sends a masked unaccountable secret police force to harass and murder Americans, in order to get what they want.
That’s not confusion. That’s malicious intent.
If you want to know how to make traitors stop being traitors. If you want to know how to make fascists stop being fascists. Well, I’m not totally sure I wouldn’t get banned for the answer. I definitely would on Reddit.
Those of us who passed our history classes have been trying for a decade to get people to help vote us in the opposite direction of this. That didn’t work. Now it’s happening and there’s no easy way out of this.
What can one do at this point?
How did we get 40s Germany to stop being so Nazi? We all know what has to happen.
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Buy a gun. Or two. Train. Help others buy and train. Many people just need that little push from someone that knows more about the process than them. It’s a whole hell of a lot more difficult to oppress people who are armed to the teeth. Just watched a video of armed protestors in Philadelphia. The cops show up, try to get them to stand down. They don’t. The cops end up leaving. There’s your proof.
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Hold conservatives in your life accountable however you see fit. If that means cutting them off, that means cutting them off.
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Fight misinformation wherever you see it by correcting it with facts. Even if it seems pointless. You aren’t commenting for the benefit of the piece of shit you’re trying to correct. You’re commenting for the other people that end up reading it and learning from it.
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Read the CIA’s “Simple Sabotage” handbook, which is available online. Do anything in it that you can reasonably do, ESPECIALLY if you work for the federal government.
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Support and protect your neighbors, assuming they aren’t conservatives. Do not aid or abet any conservative in any way, shape, or form. Do your due diligence and make sure any business you’re spending your money with doesn’t have conservative ties. Google the owner’s name and check their social media. Make sure they aren’t conservative.
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Vote. Every. Single. Time. In every election, no matter how small.
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