An investigation by Gamers Nexus found LG smart TVs sweep local networks to map phones and nearby devices. Tests also showed the sets can capture microphone audio with the screen off — they then upload data once reconnected to the internet.

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    Shareholders must be held responsible individually

    So, are you personally on the hook here because the company managing your pension fund is holding stocks in LG? Because that technically makes you a shareholder as it was bought with your money, right?

    Edit: not sure why I get downvoted, this is a legitimate concern/nuance to the debate. The managing company doesn’t own these stocks so they’re not the shareholders, that’s the people whose money they are managing, but these people are not directly in control of the funds. Who is the liable party in this?

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      90 percent of stocks are owned by ten percent of Americans. Just throwing this fact out here

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      The highest level employee/officer who had knowledge of it should be held responsible

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        You mean the CBO[1]? Because the higher level officers didn’t know anything about it and you can’t prove they did.


        1. Chief Blame Officer ↩︎

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      It doesn’t matter how many layers of evasion there are. Responsibility has to be with individuals in order for there to be change.

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      That might stop this madness.

      See the thing is if your pension also funds a murder company does outsourcing who manages it not make you at least a little culpable? I think it does and i think the only way to stop this madness is for a little justice to come your way.

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        does outsourcing who manages it not make you at least a little culpable

        What if i have no control over who manages it? I have two, one is government managed and mandatory, the other is part of my salary (and mandatory) and who manages my company paid pension is decided by my employer. I have no control of either aside from general risk profile and high level market groups on my company paid pension (e.g. “tech” or “renewable energy”, but no ).

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      The fact that a pension fund can hold shareholds is crazy by itself, also, is the pension found a company or managed by your state? It shouldn’t really be a thing in first place

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        is the pension fund a company or managed by your state?

        Both in my case, as there are both the government pension fund that is mandatory and the one used by my employer which uses one of the large primary pension institutions in my country.

        Is it a bit weird that I don’t just manage all my pensions myself? Yes, a bit. But it’s how its done in my country and it has some tax benefits compared to getting the money in hand and investing myself.

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          Is it a bit weird that I don’t just manage all my pensions myself?

          Naah, at least, i don’t know anyone that does it in my country

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            Me either. My union pension is controlled by the union and managed by a bank as far as I can tell.