• hOrni@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Imagine how bad it would be if Americans didn’t have guns to defend themselves.

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      The data is provided by Eurostat. An EU organisation, they are not going to fund numbers for a country not in the EU anymore (some other countries might still join for various reasons.)

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        If they hold that stance, the graph should not use ‘Europe’ when they essentially mean ‘EU member nations’, especially if they omit the UK for the reasons you state as the UK is a part of Europe.

        Edit: not sure how difficult this is to understand. Europe is a continent, which includes the UK. The chart says Europe, not EU, whilst omitting a country within Europe.

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          23 hours ago

          I feel for you. I understand what you’re saying. Unfortunately I only have one up vote to counter everyone else.

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          In this case it is the graph makers laziness to not find extra stats on the UK. On the other part I believe the UK has the choice to join again, especially on side project as Eurostat. If a European country doesn’t want to join on European initiatives then I’m bit sure if we should treat them specially. The choice is theirs and it was clearly made.

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      NH has the lowest poverty rate of all the states. Plus it’s generally cold and rural so people are more isolated and chill.

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        Why not? Are you some sorta coward? I’ll say it: yeah, fascists think a whiter population leads to reduced crime rates. That’s because fascists are rubes and imbeciles with such a stunted worldview that they’re incapable of considering the effects of any other socio-economic factors such as education, distribution of wealth, etc.

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      A bit surprising seeing us at the top since I rarely feel uncomfortable walking alone during night even through questionable areas. I usually do not even see anyone else so that might be the reason why nothing significant has happened.

      Most of those murders probably are from people you know because usually headlines mention something like ″Some guy kills another guy over a bottle of vodka and argument″. Rarely you see in news incidents where murder seems to have happened to random person.

      The only recent thing that shook me quite a bit was meeting a guy with large knife. I still do not know if it was just for his own protection and he was some local guard since I was in an industrial area where you would not expect anyone. He was visibly drunk and spoke Russian which I barely know so I did not spend too much time thinking about it and just run the hell away.

      It’s also better than it was before. In 90s we had a bit of a gangster period. Source.

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      Alternatively, Louisiana is the Latvia of the United States. But with fewer social programs.

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      If you take Chicago and New Orleans out of the mix, the two states are actually fairly even.

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    Not to brag but at least Illinois isn’t the worst. That, as usual, goes to the Worst State in the Union in over 90% of all categories, Louisiana.

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    Why is Mississipi not first on this list too? Louisiana seems off the charts. Any explanation for that?

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      Have you been to Louisiana?

      I spent a good bit of time growing up there. This does not surprise me.

      Also, New Orleans was like, murder capital of the world per capita at one point in time.

      But generally, the reasons are the obvious ones: Extreme bigotry, racism, and most importantly, some of the worst poverty in the world for any first world country is there. Poverty creates violence. It’s just how humans/the world work. When you don’t have enough/can’t get a job through legal means to survive, you turn to crime.

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      Must be the Mississipi River. It just gets redder as you go down from Minnesota to Louisiana.

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      outside of NO, the region is reletively low on education, poverty ridden and low opportunity. its the trio that makes high homicide rate.

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      Corruption, poor education, overpowered oil/gas lobby, for-profit prison system that encourages recidivism

      And that’s just scratching the surface

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        I remember reading something while ago that did link high temperatures with higher rates of things like violence. Essentially, being hot all the damn time makes everyone’s baseline level of irritability higher and so things escalate more often. Seems a bit counter-intuitive though if we all came from Africa so I’m not sure how true it ultimately is.

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          In Europe the stereotype is definitely that “blood gets warmer” the more south you go. It certainly holds a bit of truth in my experience, the attitudes in Marseille or Rome are much more spicy than in Berlin, Amsterdam etc.

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    Just want to point out the graph maxes out at 12.5 out of 100,000. That’s 0.01% of 100000. With Louisiana’s population of 4.57million, it comes out to 571 people in 2020. Feels pretty low.

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      The colour chart in the top right maxes at 12.5. Not the graph. Louisiana passes the 15 mark by a little bit. So that makes it around 700 people up from 571.

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      Denmark, with a population of 5.8 million in 2020, had 42 (0.72 per 100000). 571 seems absolutely astronomical.

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        It’s most definitely a difference, it is also important to note this chart broke the US down into its states but did not do the same for the larger European countries. Taking data from statistica, Paris has a 10.2, the rest of the country is just so much more peaceful the overall is brought down. If America is taken at a whole it has a 6.3, which is still higher but not astronomically compared to the other countries.

        In relation to countries outside of Europe, 571 does not seem astronomically high anymore, more like a miracle. Nearly every country in South America, Asia, and Africa that has data is much higher than the US average.

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          Also, if you’ve looked at the same map as I did, that was Guiana with a 10.2, not Paris. Paris is sub 3. All mainland France is sub 3. It’s the islands that are bringing up the average, not Paris.

          Also, even taken as a whole, the US isn’t that well placed when compared to world average. Map that makes it easy to see.