I asked him “what color were the clouds back then?” and he said they were white. I asked him what happens if I take an orange light and light up something that’s white with it. He ignored me. He went on about how everyone in his age group remembers the Sun being orange, and by me questioning him, I’m calling him and all his peers liars and I’m stupid because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.
This person is either at least mildly psychotic or fucking with you. It’s wild that people are down here in the comments offering evidence when the entire concept is entirely absurd. This isn’t an age or intelligence or experience thing this is a “this person is unhinged, don’t interact” situation.
Science went from researching medicine and technology, to desperately trying to disprove all the shit dumb people posted on Facebook, like that the earth is flat etc.
Don’t validate that kind of idiocy with an argument, just say “sure, you’re probably right.” and brush off the idea of even talking about it in general.
The sun is white, but the atmosphere reflects and scatters blue, allowing red and yellow to pass through. You see this effect in mornings and evenings when the sun’s light passes a much further distance in the atmosphere due to its low inclination. Your logic is sound, the clouds do appear orange at that time.
The only time you can safely look at the sun enough to determine its color normally is a sunset when it is tinted orange. I can see how he might have come to this conclusion but… wow…
Your friend is a fucking idiot.
Your friend has fallen down a far-right conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Sorry for your loss.
not even necessarily far-right, i jnow plenty of leftists/liberals that are dumb as fuck and believe in horoscopes and other stupid shit like that
Down votes are funny here. You are 100% correct, Idiots exist on all polical compass points.
That’s like saying heat exists everywhere in the solar system. Yes, it’s true, but it paints a mildly inaccurate picture.
Not sure where the inaccuracy is. I lean left politically but I see just as many idiots on this side as the other side. Think about raw milk, vaccines, etc. The whack jobs were more on the left than right though there were both.
I remember the sun being orange, but also I remember not being able to look straight at it and having it depicted on TV and pictures as orange so thats probably where that impression came from.
Maybe also sunglasses have changed over the years? Maybe our eyes change as we grow and we actually could see it as orange back then? Streetlights used to be orange but are white now, maybe that mixes in the memory?
Theres lots of explanations for the misunderstanding and none of them involve God changing the light bulb.
Exactly! It’s not some Tesco bulb, this bulb will last a while. It hasn’t burnt yet. People. I swear lol
While the conclusion of it being replaced with an LED is obviously not what happened, I think it’s very possible that the sun was often orange for him when he was growing up, because of air pollution.
30 years ago, depending on where you lived, there were more cars on the road with less efficient fuel consumption, more people using fireplaces, more people burning trash, less regulation of various industries etc. Searching for images with the phrase “smoke pollution sun” will give you a lot of photos of orange suns, and they’re definitely not all altered for effect. I’ve seen red suns in real life too when wildfires are really bad near my area even though that’s thankfully rare.
We know not the sun itself that is orange, but in a polluted environment it certainly looks like it is - and if you don’t get a great education, I can see how you might think that’s the actual color of the sun.
30+ years ago skies used to be silver in cities from smog. Going across the mountains into Los Angeles could be like going to a different planet.
I’ve never considered the colour of the sun. I’m going to get my telescope out and have a look later today!
Careful of your eyes! I’m pretty sure you need a special filter or telescope for the sun
Nah it’ll be fine Ill just have a quick peek!
I mean same for photography, tv, film and even artistic renderings. They probably consumed a lot of media and can draw parallels and contrasts just from those.
This makes some sense. Clearly the friend is a bit of a conspiracy theorist, or trolling. There’s a decent chance they are younger too. That being said you’re the only person with a reasonable feasible explanation that might get through to the friend.
Your friend is mentally ill or an idiot, likely both.
Yes. If the sun was orange, the light would be orange, and everything white would be orange.
The fact that your friend believes the sun was replaced by a giant LED is a sign they should not be your friend anymore
Your friend is either trolling you or a complete idiot.
I’d assume trolling
No, there’s actual people like that. The guy I mentioned in my comment came into work one day, claiming that the moon makes its own light. I once asked him if he had heard of the Stargate series. He paused, looked me dead in the eye, and said, super seriously, “yes and Stargates are real.”
There are people that honestly believe this shit. The only thing is now they have the internet to convince each other that it’s all real.
The nature of reality is such that you can believe a very silly thing and have it impact your life in no meaningful way. People have been wrong about the nature of the universe for millennia and continued to get by. The oddball who believes in native moonlight and stargates isn’t going to benefit tangibly for being correct or suffer tangibly for his misbelief. In many cases - thanks to the proliferation of internet subcommunity echo-chambers - they may actually suffer (socially) for reconciling their beliefs with reality if they can’t bring their friends along for the ride.
But, again, when they have extremely limited influence over their surroundings (this guy is not, presumably, running an astronomy lab or charged with funding improvements to municipal mass transit) their zany beliefs don’t really matter. Correctness doesn’t benefit them and incorrectness is more fun.
Well they are real, they used them in the series.
They don’t make you teleport though, that’s just special effects.
Has he written his congresspeople about the need to increase defense spending because of the threat of the Goa’uld?
Stargates are real.
Found him!
It’s the Fargate! “F”! It’s different from that movie, which I have never seen, so how would I copy it?
Ok but hear me out. I get laughed at for this, but I do think the moon is pretty hollow. The Apollo astronauts are on record saying it rang like a bell when they landed on it.
I dont think its that crazy that the moon is very cavernous and hollow compared to earth. Now, aliens dont live inside it I dont think, but thats another theory haha!
I actually like this example. All too often we hear a kernel of truth, “the moon rang like a bell”, without context or explanation and can just apply logic that that seems reasonable with things we understand without questioning the result
it wasn’t a “landing” they crashed their lander into the moon to measure seismic data. They basically did an orbital strike with a bus. It vibrated for a long time because there isn’t much to dampen the vibration when most of the surface is hard rock with no moisture.
Look at this sucker, he thinks the moon is real!
Probably both
No. I know people like this irl.
Not the exact belief, but insane nonetheless. Usually they get all their news from fb and xitter. And theyre always smarter than scientists despite not finishing hs or college (not that one needs to do those things to be smart, but just saying as a rule…)
I stand by my previous statement. They are either trolling you or complete idiots.
Or mentally ill.
It’s likely this isn’t the only conspiracy theory he believes in. Time for you to find better friends,.
They didn’t replace the sun that would be impossible
They replaced the sky which obviously uses LED imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big
imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big
Is that what caused global warming? /s
No, that was me. I stuck my glove in the oven.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s not a friend. Friendship is between approximate equals and requires respect and trust. He does not trust or respect you. He looks down on you for your age and ignores your valid arguments because of it. If you have any choice in the matter, get away from this person and find people who, even if they disagree, will do so from a place of reason and respect. Do not be fooled into thinking someone is a ‘friend’ just because you interact with them regularly.
I’m going to take a different stance to a lot of the posters here.
Your friend may be showing signs of undiagnosed mental illness.
If you value him, listen to him and confront him when he has broken away from reality. But don’t argue with him. Be firm in your disagreements but don’t argue.
Be supportive of him if you can. Make sure he has a support network (parents siblings others)
Sometimes mental illness does not manifest until early adulthood.
Know your limits. Care for yourself.
Seconded. The friend is likely going through a mental illness.
This is an old Mandela effect.
The issue is that they don’t actually remember what the sun looked like, because you can’t really look at the sun.
Their memories are of the crayon drawings that they made in school.
The sun is orange, when it’s dim enough to look at in the evening.
That’s because the atmosphere takes all the blue away
That person has probably been using ChatGPT. Either that or this post is itself LLM-generated. One or the other.
A simple google will tell anyone the following
The Sun is white. It appears yellow from Earth because of scattering from the atmosphere. Its peak visible light is in the green part of the spectrum.
He could be a liar, I dunno, but he is definitely a doodoo head
https://sciencenotes.org/what-color-is-the-sun-hint-not-yellow/
Edit: your friend is almost certainly unconsciously mistaking the shift to LED bulbs as the “deyellowing” of society
We perceive the sun as white. That’s a fairly important distinction.
The reason we perceive the sun as white is surely because the sun has output basically the same spectrum as long as humanity (and a great deal of humanity’s precursors) has existed. We evolved with our eyes considering the spectrum the sun kicks out as fully white light, comprised of the sum total of electromagnetic frequencies we’re able to receive with our eyeballs.
There is no such thing as objective color of any light. Our understanding of color is completely based on our perception of it. If the sun’s peak output were in the 590–625nm range (what we currently perceive as orange) for all that time rather than in the green part of the spectrum it is in reality (500–565nm), we undoubtedly would have evolved to see that particular spectrum combination as white light instead.
All of the above notwithstanding, if the spectrum output of the sun changed overnight like OP’s idiot friend is suggesting, it would be immediately apparent to everyone who isn’t literally blind.
the sun has output basically the same spectrum as long as humanity
Last time I checked, human output was brown.
And if it’s not someone should check in with humanities veterinarian…
One point on perception - doesn’t the sun appear somewhat yellow because the blue light has a stronger tendency to scatter, meaning that the roughly white light of the sun is less blue, with all the blue color of the sky being taken away from the color of the sun?
More or less, yes. That’s also why it appears more red/orange as it gets closer to the horizon from your perspective, since at that oblique angle the light has to pass through more of the atmosphere to get to you and more of it gets scattered or absorbed by particulates in the air.
The sun is actually green and our brains autocorrect it to white??? What the fuck
Ok. Devils advocate here. If it did change, and did it gradually, would we notice? And if it changed suddenly wouldn’t we adjust and soon see things as we always have?
The question is how gradually. Over the span of 10,000 years, probably not. Over the span of a month, absolutely. Remember that the hue of sunlight already changes significantly throughout the day based mostly on the sun’s proximity to the horizon (and thus how much thickness of crap in the atmosphere it has to plow through to get to your location) and we can definitely detect that easily.
Where is the ambient horizon lighting coming from in the right-side of the picture?
I’m pretty sure it’s cgi upon inspection lol
From light pollution. Or it’s just early morning in there.
