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    Well … Holiday comes from the Old English hāligdæg, meaning holy day. So it closer to it than one might think. But on the other hand … conservative christians might not get that connection

    • ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃@pawb.social
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      Which is why I wish them a Merry Yule and the All Father’s blessing, and watch them act like they’re gonna die of contact with an unclean heathen…

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        This usually gets downvoted but I love it when people remind Christians that all of their holidays are bastardized versions of other cultures holidays.

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          Yule, Ostara (easter), Samhain (All Hallow’s Eve / Halloween)… It was the forced removal and conversion of entire cultures and ethnic lifestyles, often with the threat of death for those who don’t re-identify themselves. If only there was a word for the killing of entire ethnocultural groups…

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          What about the obscure ones only followed in like one village in Europe cause some Saint died there?

          Oh before I forget, have a Happy Michealmas! Will you be serving the traditional michealmas bread and goose?

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      It was also the default greeting in the 1800’s.

      They changed it somewhere at the start of 1900’s to force Christianity on more people.

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      I don’t get why they are allowed to keep “News” in their name.

      Nothing “news” about opinions.

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    I’ve never understood this.

    I’m a Christian, but I don’t make the connection on purposely avoiding greeting someone’s religious celebration.

    I have no problem saying ‘happy Diwali’ to my Hindu neighbours. Do you think they feel uncomfortable saying ‘merry Christmas’ to me?

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      It’s when you’re dealing in an official capacity or speaking to a broad audience or when you don’t know the person’s culture.

      The CEO saying Merry Christmas to his 140 employees, when 5 of them are Jewish is going to be not feel so great for those 5 Jewish people. Happy Holidays should be fine for everyone.

      But if you know the person is Christian (or celebrates Christmas) it should be perfectly fine to tell them Merry Christmas.

      Of course in some places that may be considered insensitive because a Jewish person might be hearing it. Which is absurd and that level of sensitivity is not acceptable IMO.

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          I wonder how much Hispanic people squirm when they hear Father Christmas referred to as Santa.

          Just saying that transgender people in popular Christian culture seem to have been around for a significant amount of time….

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              “Santa” is the Spanish term for a female saint. Hence Santa Anna, Santa Barbara, etc.

              And then there’s Santa Claus, AKA Father Christmas, named after Saint Nicholas.

              (Of course, there’s also Sinter Klaus, but I’d rather go with calling a very masculine saint “santa”)

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            Hispanic people just say Santa Claus and don’t analyze it or cringe, it’s just the way it’s said. Just like ‘la mano’ and ‘el día’ sound ‘wrong’ to somebody learning Spanish and trying to apply rules in their head… But to a native Spanish speaker it’s completely normal and the way it is.