The thing is, the top picture doesn’t have to be that way. There’s 36 cars in the queue and about 31 parking spots empty in full view. So anyone who isn’t an absolute dumb stupid bastard of a man can drive around these dummies, park, and leave before anyone else (or alternately sit inside and eat).
But also, top picture is in some sprawling hellscape of suburbia while bottom pic presumably has nice views to look at.
It also could be that they are drive-through only. I live in a small town in the midwestern U.S. and a lot of fast-food places around here closed their lobbies during the pandemic and just never reopened them after, usually citing worker shortages.
so i guess no fast food for the poor. as a teen, i got rejected from trying to order from the drive thru because i didn’t have a car.
With the way the prices have risen, it’s nearly “no fast food for the poor” already anyway…
I make my coffee at home. It’s cheaper.
So much time saved too. Takes less time to make it than it ever does to wait in line.
The silver lining is I can nip inside to the almost empty coffee shop and leave with my order before two cars have been served. No idea why these people would rather sit in their car for twenty minutes than walk for twenty seconds.
I wish this was true, I’ve tried it multiple times at Starbucks and it doesn’t work.
I think the majority of the staff is working on mobile/drive thru orders vs the orders that come in at the counter.
Regardless, going inside has taken me longer then joining that stupid line.
No idea. I served in drive throughs and I can tell you waiting time is shorter inside the store
Waiting time is shorter and I don’t have to keep idling the car ( or turning it off and on again) before I can order.
I’m used to running inside because I ride a motorcycle a lot, and you’re right the wait is almost always shorter inside the building. It’s fun to see the same cars sitting in the line when you leave.
Ahh but you can’t ever be part of a pretentious and pointless pay it forward chain, where suburbanites of the same financial status pay roughly for someone else what they would have paid for their own drinks
It is best to just put in the order online. Then you can park, walk in, grab it, walk out and be moving before they serve a single car.
Because they clearly don’t have to worry about all the extra money and time they’re wasting on gas to buy commercial coffee every day. Must be nice.
My car is probably more comfortable tbh. Especially if weather is bad.
Yeah, that headline asks the wrong question.
– I look at the bottom picture and see hard chairs, hot sun, bugs, and I don’t know if there are seats but some people are stuck standing.
– I look at the top picture and see nice cushy seats, my own music, and air conditioning.
Comfort is why people put up with these lines
If it was such an unpleasant experience, why are so many people there? Maybe the chairs are comfortable. Maybe there is a pleasant breeze, maybe the people standing are just passing by, and anyone who wanted to sit is doing so. If you don’t think an outdoor café can be a comfortable experience, you’ve obviously never been to one. I have my morning coffee at a place like this all the time and it’s lovely.
Probably can’t afford cars, or too many dui /s
Because they specifically dont want takeout
They’re probably there because they got paid for the photo shoot.
Dude, this kind of thing is everywhere in Europe. It’s rare in the US, but it still exists in some places. People love being outside. Just because you’re always indoors doesn’t mean everyone likes that. I go to breweries often, and as long as it’s not incredibly hot or cold outdoor seating is the first thing taken.
The US has been constructed so this kind of thing doesn’t exist in most places, but where it does it’ll always be occupied.
It looks like a Google Street view shot to me
Those seats look pretty nice, but if it were hot they would just be indoors. There’s several people in jackets and suit jackets, so I doubt it’s hot. It’s all shaded and probably a mild day. Personally, I love going to breweries, and I almost always choose to go places with outdoor seating and sit outside. It’s much nicer than sitting in a sealed box all the time to get outside and enjoy the environment when you can.
I don’t like waiting in my car, but I fucking hate packed restaurants/cafes where I have to scoot my chair in extra tight so people don’t keep having to rub their junk on me every time they squeeze behind me.
I choose option 3: make my coffee/tea at home because I’m poor asf.
so people don’t keep having to rub their junk on me
I agree with GiantFloppyCock.
Is there a sublemmy for rimjob Steve yet?
I wouldn’t have noticed without this comment. Love it.
Well, if you weren’t poor, you could just go and sit in half empty cafe where trey charge €10+ per cup.
I hate getting bumped, but for me it’s the noise. Can’t stand a crowded space with many conversations.
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What a ridiculous comment. Maybe they already have been. Maybe they can’t afford it. Maybe they don’t even have autism. A diagnosis isn’t some magic cure for sensitivity to noisy crowds anyway, so it’s not a helpful suggestion even if all your assumptions were true.
Don’t be such a sourpuss, it was only a joke
High five for practical frugality. I’m with you there.
On a personal level, I’d realistically pass on both of these places. But the nice thing with the bottom option? 9/10 times there’s another place with what I’d want within a reasonable walking distance, along with other options. Even in a small European village I’ve observed several places to eat within walking distance of each other.
My absolute disdain for traffic overpowers my disdain for crowds by far.
It’s been over 100° for over 40 days straight.
Fuck, yeah I’ll take the air-conditioned recliner with a sound system that plays exactly what I want and doesn’t require me to walk 4 blocks to get a cup of coffee.
Coffee shops also often have air-conditioned environments indoors.
One large benefit of classic coffee shop style design is building community. Presumably you go to your local coffee shop (this obviously doesn’t exist in suburbia) and meet other local people there. It provides opportunity to just get to meet other people, which helps people feel more connected and less scared of each other, and also let’s them rely on each other when needed. It also creates a space people can use for organization efforts. You can advertise for local mutual aid groups or political organizations or whatever else to people with likely similar interests.
Car culture (particularly in America) has destroyed most people’s sense of community. You live in your space, drive wherevever you need to go in your private bubble, and never interact with people living near you. It’s not good.
We have local coffee shops too with all the little art shows and community organizing and a bunch of annoying hippies preaching about essential oils and salt lamps. There’s like 7 of them in my town of 20,000. But sometimes people just want a godamnned mochafrappabullshit on the way into the office, and a drive-thru is a great option for them.
Honestly, I usually just use the pot at work or grab a cup in the gas station. It’s been years since I used a Starbucks. But they have their place - especially if you live somewhere where walking down the street for coffee means you have to take another shower before going in to work.
Mr. Bones I want to get off your industrialized hell hole infrastructure ride
I feel like 40% of Americans would say pic number one.
It’s 43°C out here in Texas, so yes, but I would rather climate refugee my way into a nice place like the bottom picture because with the way things are going, soon 50°C is going to be the new norm out here (especially if we keep building photo one infrastructure) and 43° is already too hot. We also have lines like this for fried chicken. SNL even did a parody auto dealer commercial where the dealership is blocked off by the traffic in line for chicken.
I’m socially anxious and don’t really like crowds so sitting in my car is preferable. But I’d park and walk in rather than wait in a line like that.
Really I work from home and get my own coffee every day without needing pants, which is infinitely preferable to both.
Pic number one is definitely more comfortable. Because you don’t have to be around so many people. You have your own private environment. Listen to an audiobook, zone out, drink some coffee, sounds perfect.
I hope it’s higher than that. I don’t want to hike 3 miles to sit on a crowded sidewalk with randos under someone’s house to wait 20 minutes for 2 oz of espresso probably in a cloud of cigarette smoke.
I like a cafe, but it’s going to be way out of the way and no one waiting but me.
You guys only have a cafe every 3 miles?
Lol, we have some every couple of 100 meters. In my small neighborhood town, I know of at least 7.
The amount of coal rolling cope going on here is kind of wild… first time seeing people culture-war mad on Lemmy. Kill your darlings, I guess.
None of them honestly, both are too crouded.
Not only that, that brasserie is on the Rive Gauche in Paris so if you sit outside to watch the world go by, the fuckers charge you extra lol
(I’m just having fun thinking about the comparison, nothing too directed at your statement as I also agree with that)
Both pictures contain the same amount of people, but there is likely three more shops around the shop in the below picture which all fit in the same space as the upper one, one of which is probably also not as crowded. Also, there are at least 30 apartments in that area as well as other shops and it has worked like that for centuries, if not a millennium
The people lining up, instead of parking and taking 5 mins to go inside, are terminally stupid. I encountered this the other day, and I was out the door with my coffee before the line had even moved.
Are you by any chance telling them to walk on their legs?
Wasn’t that a covid thing?
With that being said, there is no way i would’ve waited there when i saw 3 or more cars.Wasn’t that a covid thing?
No, I see it happen in my hood. Sometimes the overflow blocks oncoming traffic too and that’s when you have to actually honk at these utter fuckwits.
Many coffee and fast food restaurants around where I live closed down internal seating around covid and still haven’t opened the backup now due to staffing issues. Terminally stupid my ass.
Equally terminally stupid your ass, because you can make coffee at home during highly infectious outbreaks.
Yes because sitting in my car jamming to my music is soooooo stupid.
No, but twenty of you sitting in your idling cars is unbelievably stupid
Edit - actually there are actually 35 stupid cunts in this pic
Start/stop technology.
In CA, my rent is close to $2k a month, but I can walk to basically everything I need to. In MI, my rent is $650 a month, but the closest coffee shop is miles away.
i don’t drive, so it would have to be #2 (otherwise no coffee for me).
tbh i feel bad for the people living above the restaurant. i used to live above an italian restaurant and the patrons were so loud that we’d receive love letters from the landlord saying things like “do not throw milk in the courtyard”.
The one where I just get a cup from my MrCoffee drip coffee maker and stay home.
