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    "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

    ― Marcus Aurelius

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    The way I figure it, if God exists he gave me a reasoning mind and provided absolutely no reasonable evidence of his existence. If he has a problem with me drawing the inevitable conclusion from that then fuck 'im.

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      If you look at it from God’s perspective, assuming he exists, you have all of these groups of people who claim to worship him, and the biggest ones all have different holy books, and all of those holy books are flawed. They’re even self-contradictory. I think God would be offended if people thought he was responsible for those piles of trash.

      On the other hand, if God created our cosmos, surely he’d at least approve of people trying to understand it compared to boring people who ignore the world and just chant the same things over and over.

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      If god is real im going to try and kill him for creating a world with such evil happening to innocent people.

      Any god who creates a place where babies are raped and murdered deserves to die.

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      This is why I refer to myself as agnostic instead of atheist. I do not see an evidence of God as stated in the Bible, Torah, Koran or such religions. However I cannot prove that a different type of God does not exist. Something - called God - could be responsible for the beginning of everything. I don’t see that God as being too concerned about humans and what they do or don’t do. God and religion are not the same thing. Religions are entirely man made as a societal control mechanisms and abused by leadership greed.

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        Then it’s a question of semantics, and how you define “God”. Would you consider big bang as “God”?

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    Yeah, well…

    MY religion says if you don’t give me $20,000 you’ll spend forever swimming through a pool of glass shards and lemon juice. Better be on the safe side - what if I’m right?

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    If god turns out to be real then heaven is likely hell.

    Based on what god has shown us so far he is a dictator who enjoys watching his little creatures suffer in too many ways to count. He is most likely an emotionless psychopath. He used his Jesus avatar once publicly to show that he’s “one of us”, showed off his admin rights by turning water to wine and resurrecting himself, and then logged off again with no consequences.

    It’s the equivalent of a billionaire going with public transport for a day to show how grounded and normal he is.

    If god exists and can truly control what comes after death then we are all fucked and need to find out how to kill him.

    Maybe after death we resurrect into a full blown souls against god rebellion that has been going on for a few hundred years

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    Pascal wager can be so easily thrown back…

    « You better pray for forgiveness to the Christian god before dying… just to be sure! »

    Ok… but what if the Hindus were right all along and I just damned myself?! There’s a whole lot more Hindus… I’m getting better odds by renouncing the Christian god instead

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    “You lose” is such a weird thing to say. It’s implying this is an issue to win or lose on. Instead of you know living a virtuous life. Nope. It’s sides that win or lose.

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      Right? My religion tortures you for not being on our side I rather choose nothing than worship that kind of evil.

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      These pricks get off on seeing others suffer, while proclaiming to covet the virtues of a book they’ve never read.

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    I think the matter is simple.

    If there is a God, he should let me in for being a good person. If he is as vain as Christians make him out to be, I wouldn’t worship him anyway.

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    If basically any major religion’s god is real, we all lose. They’re all fucking giant assholes.

    I’m not worshiping an asshole… unless its attached to someone hot.

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    Dear reader,

    What if, after you die, you discover that string theory is correct, the the universe and reality itself are all merely tendrils of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and that it thought you were kind of neat, so it decides to turn you into gelato… but only for a moment, as a joke, and then just does a ground hog day on you, as another joke?

    You lose.

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    God: >hides<

    Also God: how dare you not believe in me with zero proof in the natural world! >tantrum<

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      Everything is proof of god!

      If you understand nothing and refuse to explore and learn, that is

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        No see you don’t understand:

        I occasionally hear voices in my head that I decided to attribute to God, and I also see or hear strange patterns sometimes that I decide are God talking to me in extremely specific and unique ways that no one else would understand, therefore, my moderate and likely worsening schizophrenia is proof that God is real.

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      Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

      The argument goes something like this: “I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”

      “But,” says Man, “The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.”

      “Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,” and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

      “Oh, that was easy,” says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

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    If god were to be real I’d like to think that finite and cringe concepts like “do you love me because I killed myself for you? (Tick the according box)” would be so laughably far removed from the conversation that’s it’s not even up for consideration.

    The supposed almighty creator, who resides over everything in existence itself,…. Spends it’s time worrying wether or not you touched yourself and why you didn’t believe in the santa guy from a book mostly used by evil conmen. Don’t make me laugh.

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      It never seems to occur to them that if there was an entity so powerful that it could literally create an entire Universe out of nothing, and then monitor the progress of ever single element of that Universe, then that entity would be far too complex for our puny human minds to even comprehend.

      And yet there are those among us who would dare to claim to know exactly what that all-powerful entity is thinking, and what it wants from us, and oh, yeah, it always costs a lot of money, gimme.

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        This always confused me too. It would be like an ant trying to understand the motivations of a human.

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          I have used that exact analogy, asking why the omniscient entity would care about the needs of any single individual ant out of a colony of billions?

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      A long time ago, I had a friend bitching that people weren’t getting all dressed up at her church. I’ve always said that if God was real, they wouldn’t give a rats ass what people wore to church.

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    Interestingly, the Christian God doesn’t care about your life, only about your soul. And whilst they say belief is the only way to him there’s an interesting thing most of these guys intentionally overlook.

    If God is infact made of love, as so many claim, only those who are full of love truly believe. Now I ain’t saying atheists have more love in them than Christians, but I can say with A LOT of certainty that Christians aint got a lot of love atall

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      The phrase “there is no hate like Christian love” isn’t going away till the Christians do.

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    What if after you die you find out the demiurge is real and you failed to achieve gnosis, so you have to go back to the prison that is this reality?

    You lose.