• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    Typical conservative, ignores all the warnings and evidence until it negatively affects them. Also I bet her Trump voting grandpa believes in the caste system like almost every conservative Indian in the West. The racism is only bad when it targets them.

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    “I thought being a collaborator would foster upon me special class that would protect me and make me honorary white. That was proven wrong, and now I’m upset I’m being treated like everyone else”

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    A friend of mine was raised Republican; he’d say, fiscal Republican. He was certain that people without healthcare could just get treated for free for whatever they needed and that POC brought it all on themselves. Generally, he thought that people were nice and good and would take care of each other as long as the people in need weren’t miscreants.

    Then he met a nice black girl, got married, and had some kids.

    Now he’s seeing how they’re treated differently when they’re not together, and how he’s treated differently when he’s with her.

    How family is now all at odds as the grandparents are still in the old camp and aren’t sympathetic to his findings and struggles.

    The propaganda is hard to work around. They want to believe that there’s good and evil in the world and good prevails. It’s what their churches tell them. It’s not until each one of them individually experiences hardship that they realize that something is off, and they still remain confused as to what’s real and what’s now.

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      I’ve got an old high school friend whose family migrated from Taiwan when she was a kid. She was dyed-in-the-wool “China Bad / Communism Bad” and quickly adopted the Texas brand of anti-Communist Republicanism. She got a law degree, joined the Federalist Society, started a practice in the Houston suburbs, and even made inroads within the local Republican Party as a team player.

      Then she tried to run for an open judicial seat in her neighborhood, during the Republican Primary. Instantly bombarded with crazy racist attacks. Tarred as a Chinese Communist. Smeared as a Manchurian Candidate. Received a ton of hate mail. Got blasted on in the local radio. Came in a distant third place with pretty much only her local friends and neighbors supporting her, in a crazy low-turnout election.

      Democrats came and courted her as a possible candidate on their side, because the Democrats in Fort Bend are far more plural with a big East Asian demographic (but just as “business-friendly” neoliberal). She outright rejected the offer and doubled down with the GOP. Now she’s hosting dinner parties with Dinesh D’Souz and Charlie Kirk to fund-raise for the same Trump candidates in her neighborhood that smeared her. She’s convinced her turn will come. People in the party keep insisting (quietly and in back rooms) that they do actually support her and a seat will open up for her eventually.

      Absolutely fucking crazy. I don’t understand it at all.

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    Liberals Warned Me About MAGA’s Racism. I Didn’t Believe Them—Until Now it affected me, personally

    A tale as old as time

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      Let’s just say that deep and systemic thinking is not a conservative voter’s strong point. Every problem is individual and can be solved individually by individuals. Nothing is real until it happens to me.

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    I wish there was a poem about what happens when they start rounding up undesirables while you stand by and do nothing, and then they come for you in the end.

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      First they came for the socialists, and I said get those fuckers—because socialist hate America. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I said good riddance —because I am a class traitor. Then they came for the Jews, and I said about time —because I am a piece of shit. Then they came for me—and I was as confused as an lamb to the slaughter.

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      Funny enough, there actually is. A poem by Martin Niemöller. Full thing is:

      "Y’all are dumb

      Thought you were part of the in crowd, without a doubt

      You fucked around

      Now you’ll find out"

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      I wish that Democrats had listened to that poem when they were supplying an active genocide, adopting Republican policy on the border, or running anti-trans hate in their own ads. They decided to give Republicans a running start.

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    Well then you’re an idiot and deserve whatever MAGA does to you. You literally asked them to do it.

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    I’ve often thought about that moment—the unnecessary injection of racial anxiety into my otherwise normal school day—when I think about the irony of progressive identity politics. My parents, both born in India but educated in America, would laugh about their well-intentioned but misguided friends who, in their eagerness to ward off the idea of “otherness,” ended up contributing to it.

    So the people who knew the country well enough to see what was coming told you what was coming. You ignored them, your parents laughed at them.

    But then a few days ago, I opened X to see my feed populated with anti-Indian vitriol—calling the country where my parents were born “filthy” and its people “filthy and undesirable.” Some condemned these comments but many others agreed, and still others criticized the critics for crying racism. But I could see it for what it was: raw bigotry.

    Huh.

    But now, we must all reckon with an ugly part of the MAGA agenda they did not realize existed.

    Everyone who’s head wasn’t buried in the sand or laughing about “the irony of progressive politics” realized they existed.

    And so, if Trump’s win is a revolutionary moment for MAGA, the people who voted for the revolution need to define which MAGA they believe in. Does “making America great again” revive the ideals of this country—or the grievances of a group of “native-born” Americans? If MAGA chooses the latter, those on the left who were dismissed as hysterical for crying racism will be vindicated in the worst way.

    Whew, still not getting it I see. MAGA has made that choice already, and it hasn’t moved one bit during the time MAGA has existed.

    I didn’t want to fracture that pride with the news of an ugly turn in our country’s politics. How do you tell someone the country they’ve loved for 50 years is harboring a growing faction that wishes he’d never come?

    I think you can only tell them to pay attention next time and not laugh at those trying to give you a clue.

    My grandfather voted for Trump three times. Now, part of that movement is calling immigrants like him ‘filthy.’

    Your grandfather empowered them and is part of the problem.

    Damn, it’s only January and my schadenfreude gland is already getting fatigued.

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      he is not anti immigrant he’s only anti illegal immigrant.

      You thought “they’re poisoning the blood of our nation” was talking about illegal immigrants only?

      Are you stupid or just bigoted against everyone else because you think you are too established to be thought as “other”?

      Conservatives be conservatying no matter the skin color - until they come for them.

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        Well they lie about this constantly, every republican I’ve met will tell you ‘I have nothing against immigrants’’ but all them the details. Visa programs? (Legal immigration) nope, get rid of it. Refugee programs (legal and mandated temporary) That’s the dog and cat eating black skinned ones, NO get rid of it! Amnesty seekers (our laws designate and protect them, not every other country, legal) nope that’s the caravan of criminals roving free all across the boarder raping white women, kill em all. ‘Chain migration’ literally legal immigration, the majorly of legal spots to immigrate come from this and it takes UP TO 20 YEARS to get citizenship. Nope we don’t need more fucking mesicans end it! There is literally no form of legal immigration they don’t HEAVILY attack and hate.

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      India has its own problems with class/caste and the language that surrounds it. Officially it’s no longer in play, but there are knock-on effects.

      “filthy and undesirable.”

      This already means something in the old caste system, specifically about the lowest “backwards caste” people (“untouchables”). Not to say that everyone involved has old-world bigotry in their hearts, but for those that do, this is likely an especially cutting insult.

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    Apparently the writer has barely paid any attention to what’s been going on over the last 10 years…

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      They were, this is classic “It’s not racism until they’re racist against me” development. It wasn’t racist when it was against only Mexicans/blacks tho.

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        This was my take as well. They only realized the MAGA folks were racist when they called Indians filthy.

        When they were calling mexicans rapists and murders 😴

        When they said africa was full of shithole countries 😴

        I could go on, but it is kinda exhausting. Coming up next is the working class people when they start getting called white trash. Its coming once they consolidate enough power and dont need them anymore.

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      The right being poorly educated isn’t a quip; it’s a designation. One they can neither accept nor escape.

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    Her turning point:

    But then a few days ago, I opened X to see my feed populated with anti-Indian vitriol—calling the country where my parents were born “filthy” and its people “filthy and undesirable.” Some condemned these comments but many others agreed, and still others criticized the critics for crying racism. But I could see it for what it was: raw bigotry.

    Same old story:

    My life is filled with immigrants from India and Nigeria and Lebanon and the Dominican Republic—many of whom are definitionally the “working class”—who voted for Trump. They are family members and neighbors, cafe owners who greet me by name, doctors, cleaning ladies, the mailman, my Cape Verdean babysitter-turned-friend of many years. All of them opposed illegal immigration while defending Trump from critics: “He’s not anti-legal immigration, he’s anti-illegal immigration,” they’d said. “I’m pro-legal immigration—make it easier to do it the lawful way,” they’d say.

    I will never understand how people can’t see it’s thinly veiled racism when it comes from the GOP.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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      I will never understand how people can’t see it’s thinly veiled racism when it comes from the GOP.

      They’re morons. Wanna bet a lot of them were swayed by anti-abortion or anti-trans rhetoric? If not that then, ‘demonrats are going to turn this country communist’ propaganda?

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            Propaganda goes both ways.

            Ex.: guns cause violence. It’s a classic Dem. talking point. (And highly ironic that they say, “no one needs a gun, just call the cops!” out of one side of their mouth, and “police are the oppressors of the working class and are the enforcers of systemic racism!” out of the other.) And yet we’ve just seen two terrorist incidents in the past week and a half that involved cars. Do rental trucks cause violence, maybe? I know I would be filled with rage if I was forced to drive a vehicle made by Musk’s company…

            p.s. - LGBTQ+ and nonwhite gun ownership rates are increasing, and I am so there for it.

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              Ex.: guns cause violence.

              Guns clearly facilitate and amplify violence.

              It’s a classic Dem. talking point.

              It’s a stat. It’s as much a talking point as “the sun came up”.

              (And highly ironic that they say, “no one needs a gun, just call the cops!” out of one side of their mouth, and “police are the oppressors of the working class and are the enforcers of systemic racism!” out of the other.)

              Not outside of home-room. Cops need oversight and better help to deal with stress and persecution issues when they pop up. Cops need to be absolutely fired if they exhibit a pattern of racism or other discrimination – just like every other job, but with extra care because of the lethal force they can apply. This has been discussed. And wouldn’t even be ironic, Alanis.

              Right. Carry on.

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              No, it’s the same way.

              Even if I allow your example, which I wouldn’t, the “propaganda” in question is still - blaming someone for something.

              That’s what ALL propaganda does. That’s why the Dems can’t use it very well. First of all blaming people for things is a classic conservative characteristic.

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              In the direction of blaming someone.

              In this case, that terrible moussemonger Harry Styles.

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      It’s more than that, though. It’s broadcasting that the writer is also a racist xenophobe because they didn’t care until it affected their specific racial demographic.