- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
In an effort to stem the bleeding from the backlash about their AI usage and their CEO’s meltdown, they decide to do the exact opposite and go all in.
…I’m tired, boss.
The real tell here is when Yen berated an engineer who voiced concerns about security, saying “stop finding ways to be slow, start finding ways to be faster”. He’s a C-suite baby who wants what he wants RIGHT NOW!
When the suits start acting like engineers who care about best practices are being obstacles instead of valuable stewards of quality, you know you’re dealing with losers who can’t be trusted to not run things into the ground. Any walking back that Yen does now, you know he’s just biding his time to ride out the kerfuffle, and he’s just going to low-key abuse his employees at a slightly slower pace, but he’s going to get what he wants.
Canceled my sub, moved my mail.
I may have to migrate too. I’m cautious with leaving proton, but they have had plenty of time to muzzle this guy and they haven’t so it’s time to move on. I own my domain and and the aliases will all follow me either way, though that’s going to be an absolute bear to migrate.
This. Although not enthused with the all in use of AI tools, I dont have a problem with it being used to generate code. So long as a human is responsible for the PRs that go into the project. The bigger issue is the push around sacrificing proper security posture and process. As I’ve said else where, for a company that sold me and many based on their security and privacy stance, its an odd position to take, and probably why I will be moving on closer to my subscription end
I genuinely wonder what these executives have in their mind.
What do they think? That engineers are good enough for being hired but not good enough to decide which tools to use?
If I hire a plumber and I tell them what tool to use, the plumber would either comply and do a bad job or will tell me to get lost.
Why do they think this is different?
Do some engineers like LLM? Sure! And let it be Do some engineers don’t like LLM? Yes… and let it be.
If these tools are so miraculous the engineers that use them will provide such good results that will naturally prevail.
Why the executives need to thumb the scale?
They’re thinking that the chatbots are just a few weeks away from making hiring people obsolete so they can finally get infinite money forever.
So, not thinking at all.
What do they think? That engineers are good enough for being hired but not good enough to decide which tools to use?
Exactly. That’s the smell that stinks from miles away.
“AI needs to be able to work autonomously and continuously with less and less human babysitting. Your job is to identify problems that the LLM cannot solve on its own and help them not only solve them this time but be able to better solve them next time, not just for you but for everyone: repository-level context files, shared skills and prompts, and habit of ensuring that repeated failures trigger an investigation and a fix. Your job is to push the limits of what the LLM can do autonomously, step in for the things that it cannot, and always think of how you can improve the status quo.”
Forgot to add “so that we can fire you in a couple of years.” to the end.
Soo stupid, their business model is reliant on people that move out of a free service based on principle.
I highly suggest Thundermail (tb.pro) if you wanna switch to a libre email provider. Mozilla hosts stalwart and their own libre mail client for you, along with providing 15 mail aliases and 3 custom domains, for a small price. I have been using it as my daily since past few months. I haven’t found any bugs despite it being in beta.
More expensive per GB than Tuta.
At least for me, because I don’t send a lot of e-mail, I mostly receive it. So ~$3/mo for 20 GB vs $6/mo for 30 GB, easy decision for me.
Do they offer catch-alls too? And a plan for my 700+ aliases?
I had kept my mail account around just as an alternate for cutting down on spam to my main, but this was a good excuse to dump it. No need to enable the fash anymore.
This asshole has no clue. Migrating is always a pain, but I’m glad I’m no longer vulnerable to his stupidity harming me directly.
CTO too.
Well, they just have AI Psychosis. Seems like a straightforward case.
Time to de-proton
Ugh. Got another year on my prepaid plan. When I’ve tried making changes in the past they only ever offered credit for the unused time instead of a refund.
This is not the death of expertise. The LLM is fast. You are slow, but you carry with you a lifetime of experience, judgment calls, and understanding. You are also (hopefully) much less prone to hallucination and being mislead by bad or malicious inputs, and are accountable to yourself, your teammates, and to Proton in a way a model can never be. Together you can do far more, far faster than either can do alone.
Just one teeny tiny question, sir. Who tf is going to train your “IA” if no one learns to code because “IA” does “everything by itself”?
Fine, you want to go only by seniors who already knows how to write good code, cut the juniors. Then what? Just hope that “IA” is smart enough (spoiler: it won’t) to never need any kind of correction or fixing? And just for what? Going “faster”?
You can always go fast, but you really shouldn’t. Unless you want to crash faster I guess.
If you’re looking for an email service that isn’t written with AI, I made one:
What’s the best way for us to all tell Proton, loud and clear, that if they don’t value real humans, then we’re out?
Okay, so who has unlimited custom domain email aliases other than Proton? Having recently just set up a hundred or more of these suckers I’d have need of taking them with me.
I was looking at fastmail and they seem to allow a lot of custom domains.
I’ve been with Fastmail for a while and they seem decent. They also have unlimited aliases. They have a catch all alias ability too
Cool thank you, I had Fastmail for a bit but went with the encrypted email option. Oof.
If only someone would’ve told people he was a lunatic before this when he said some stupid shit last time.







