Millennials be like: Let’s feed into generational hate we learned from the boomers.
Wasnt the millennial hate the first post?
Some zoomers are also guilty of generational hate.
Yeah when zoomers first showed up to adulthood I remember being surprised when they started ripping on Millennials first (making fun of our love of gifs, single panel memes, Harry Potter, etc.). It was a “what he say fuck me for?” moment and it’s been going on ever since.
GenZ here like, those things sound great but they also cost money.
Beware of accounts promoting division between millennials & Gen Z. They’re trying to prevent a powerful political alliance.
Thank you for calling that out. I’ve saw them do that on Reddit right after the election.
Dang, am I a Gen Z now?
Other millennials go out??
Not drinking is actually a very good life decision.
Key point here: Millennials still make an effort to hang out, outside of the internet. Hoo boy that birth rate is really going to plummet. Lets see how well the capitalist’s infinite growth system works when the next 3 generations are smaller then each other. How does retirement work for the proles?
If you think capitalism is bad wait until you see what’s coming next: neofeudalism
Extremely wealthy few who control everything. No more payment, you’ll simply be a serf. No more owning, you won’t own anything, all in your life will be leased.
In that world, you have kids because your told to, or else. Individual freedom? What are you a lord? A feudal master?
I doubt anyone will have to be told to have kids. Putting people in misery will leave them grasping at anything to have a moment’s respite of pleasure. Right now they can do that with hobbies and ‘toys.’ In the future? Only the embrace of your fellow miserable hopefully-only-half-kin will be an option, and kids will start popping out.
That’s ok. At this point trump’ll tank it all first, saving us the reich wing tax incentives to bang out kids and talibangelicals preventing women from obtaining jobs or higher education so they can stay barefoot and pregnant kn the kitchen.
I don’t want a fucken culture war between the generations like what happened with baby boomers. Gen X forward are all fine by me, live your life, be conscientious of other people and where they’re at in life, and for shits sakes lets be open to changing our societies based on different generational challenges. The generational wars were always stoked by cynical conservative bread and circuses propaganda, fuck em, stop paying them attention.
And this is why my millennial D&D group invites zoomers to join us, no better way to bridge that gap!
In my experience Millenials are super inviting to Zoomers, but not the other way around. But that could just be because they are literally slightly more mature than Gen Z.
I dunno if it’s maturity or just…
Look I interact with a lotta kids, and they are not alright. If you told me a large number of zoomers literally did not know how to invite their friends to real life activities, I would believe you. I’ve spoken with a lot of Zoomers who are so socially awkward they don’t seem to understand a spoken conversation. I feel like we have an obligation to invite them to stuff, just to show them that there is a world off the net that’s worth living in.
That’s how it always is. It has nothing to do with the “generation,” but more the stage of life someone is at.
I didn’t get invited to things with people a generation or two older than me when I was younger, because I was an immature little jerk. Now I do, because my stage of life is a lot more similar to theirs now that my kids are more independent and I’ve learned to behave.
I very met some very mature Gen Z! They just happen to be the ones that don’t spend a lot of time on social media haha
The shitheads writing the culture war articles and voting for Trump and his kind in greater numbers than the boomers are Gen X.
Make friends across generational and income lines. Yes, it gets awkward sometimes.
So you’re saying I should make a point of banging wom n in their mid 20s?
Not how I would have put it. I was thinking of platonic friendships
You’re right, I should have some purely physical, no strings attached flings with multiple women in their mid 20s.
No law against it, but not sure you’ve grokked the spirit of my original statement. It’s about building solidarity. I would add including across gender lines in your case.
If I were to prescribe a resolution for you this year it would be to become really good friends with 1 woman, and to fuck 1 man.
I’m serious. If you haven’t tried it already, then I think it might really shake some baggage loose for you.
I’m with you on the value of platonic female friendships. Miss me with banging s dude though. And you make a wonderful point about having intense, passionate, no strings attached sexually charged, animalistic flings with women in their mid 20s.
Gen X and Millennials share quite a lot of culture in common. We grew up with not only a lot of the same pastimes, but the same media franchises as well. We played a lot of the same games. We both remember a time before everything was digital. Most of us were all latchkey kids and shared the same types of rebellion. We don’t really share that to the same degree with other generations.
I really like Zoomers culture, but I wish I could connect with it more. I get their values and everything you can study. I play DnD with a few of them. It just seems like a different culture. While that’s fine it does mean I have to find a way to relate. “Ah yes, I see your characteristic lack of self awareness and raise you my arrested development and my compatriots funkyo pop obsession. Well met.”
cynical conservative bread and circuses propaganda
It’s not “conservatives,” it’s mainstream media in general. Mainstream media lives and dies by viewership/readership, and the thing that sells clicks/views the most is drama. Age related drama is timeless and relatively easy pickings, because it doesn’t really matter what you say about a given generation, a number of people will identify with it, a number will disagree, and everyone seems to have an opinion.
It’s incredibly stupid and a big reason why I generally avoid mainstream media, except for coverage of important regional, national, and international news.
Same, but I gotta say that I have noticed a trend of zoomers just calling everything Millennials do as cringe. Usually every generation makes fun of the next generation, but this time it’s the other way around. Making millennials the target of both the older and younger generations.
Y’know what? There are people in every generation causing clichés and also enough people ranting about others clichés. As long as it’s in good humour, that’s fine.
Suddenly realizes no one under 30 goes to the bars he goes to
Holy shit. I never thought about it, really.
I don’t go anywhere exclusive or special, really. They’re just not fucking there. 😯
There’s no reason. Drinking is expensive and even if you have friends it’s easier to talk to/play with them online. Also, women keep telling us they don’t want to be approached at bars, so now bars are losing the quick-fuck market.
Central Bank QE skyrocketed asset prices and rents increased dramatically, and higher interest rates need to crash the economy to restore balance. Its all the ebb and flow of monetary policy, which has dramatically misallocated capital via cheap debt.
sir this is a generational circlejerk
Meanwhile me, who is lonely to tears, yet drinks alone and consumes brainrot content at the same time while crying:
Hey, hope you’ll learn to deal with self destructing habits, every steps in the right direction matters !
And dont be too harsh on yourself, perfect is ennemy of good as we say in France, especially if its derail you from wanting to get better :)
They should make a group for people who drink alone to socialize with, like “Alcoholics Identified” or something.
Hmm, maybe we could call it “Big Alcoholics Rally” or something. Maybe we could organize them as community centers, and give it a neat acronym. Hmm…
Hey. Don’t do that.
The first step to not doing that is to stop doing that.
You can DM me and we can be buddies. There’s a lot of social groups or clubs you can join to make some friends- I know that advice is tired, but it really works.
Do you have some hobbies? I’ll help you find a community or three. Don’t have any hobbies? Let me know what you like and we’ll find you some fun ones.
I know this is ironic on social media, but unplugging really helps me relax. Just no social media for a month. When I get antsy about it I do mindfulness exercises.
This one is just a personal recommendation though: I don’t like to drink when I’m down. It’s like keeping your head underwater while you’re drowning. I know it can be a release, but I was able to find other releases and I think avoiding alcohol when I’m down has gone a long way to making me happier.
This is all good advice, but even if you don’t follow it at least part of the issue isn’t that you’re alone, but what you’re doing while you’re alone…
Like. Years ago I decided to build a nine foot tall statue in the living room of my one bedroom apartment. It took me months, and it’s actually terrifying, but it also interests people. Like. No one responds to “I have an eight and a half foot tall statue in my living room” with “okay”.
Having hobbies isn’t just a way to meet people, it’s a way to learn new skills, grow as a person, and have something you can look back on and say “I did that”.
If you spent all your time alone building or making things you’d probably feel a lot better about the time you spent alone, and doubtlessly people would pick up on that
And before you say, “but hobbies are expensive,” I bet there are a lot of things you’re interested in that are cheaper than alcohol. You just need to find those things and start them.
Yeah. I was broke af when I made my statue. It’s mostly… I guess technically mortar. Cement and sand and burlap and chicken wire. Cement is not expensive.
And the best thing about hobbies is you can be creative. You can go dumpster diving to get “found materials” to make a statue, or go to the thrift store, or maybe the local wrecking yard. There are a ton of options for cheap stuff that can be attached together to make something interesting.
I’ve found some really, really weird art besides the dumpster behind my building, and the steady stream of old electronics has really helped in learning how to solder.
You don’t even need to open up a dumpster honestly.
Try out some MeetUp groups local to you. I found a local Web Developers hang, a local Snow time activities and a local board game groups that i’ve met some cool people from!
Nooo, don’t drink alone. It’s so bad. I’m sending you an internet hug ☆⌒(> _ <)
Old millennial here. Want to drink at home by yourself while I drink at home by myself?
I already started
But I fucked up, I’m with friends now and beyond drunk.
We can drink at home by ourselfs while hanging out in the same discord chat
This is the way
Edit: (to add some actual discussion) it’s honestly really nice since Ubers are getting expensive and no one will drink and drive. Sure it’s not the same as hanging out in person but it’s the next best thing.
Actually for real it is, my buddies and I just hang out and drink and smoke and have a gay old time. Maybe we’re all playing dufferent games, sometimes maybe somebody or nobody is playing nothing just chilling.
FR, this is what my wife and I do. We’ll get on a group call and chill with friends separately. Sometimes the same game, sometimes not. Less stress, saves money, still fun.
And you get to say bye and go pass out when ever you want!
i just find it sad as fuck that we are normalizing the fact everything is so hostile we can’t even see each other anymore.
Late xennial here, you’re a little late, but sure.
We drinking again? I still haven’t stopped from last night.
(stares at naked wrist) it’s blur o’clock, I can’t remember when the fuck I started, and I pretty sure I’m on an entirely different goddamn continent than the one I started on. So far it’s going pretty drink.
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zoomers don’t leave the house because the world is currently on fire
It’s been burning since the world’s been turning
But we didn’t start the fire!
We didn’t light it, but we’re trynna fight it…
World has always been on fire
Shit sentiment tbh. The climate crisis has never been as bad, we’re also experiencing the fastest mass extinction event in history. Far right parties dismantle democracies around the world, there’s nowhere to go if you wanted to flee (besides, mass surveillance, border militarization and growing xenophobia made escaping much harder than it used to be). Life has rarely been as expensive as it is currently. So no, the world has never been as on fire as it is right now.
What control do you have over any of that? Adjust how much you focus on something by how much you can control it, and you’ll be much happier.
Yeah, the climate crisis is bad, and has been for 50+ years, it’s just getting a lot more media attention lately. Yes, politics is a mess (always has been), but it’s getting a lot more media attention lately. Surveillance is bad, but rights have always been stripped as much as the powers that be can get away with, it’s just a lot more accessible these days w/ technological progress.
Life has rarely been as expensive as it is currently.
Life is around the cheapest it has ever been, if you exclude the last few years or so of inflation, at least in terms of what a typical person can afford. The main problem I see today is that access to credit (i.e. spending more than you have) is so prevalent, so many people get themselves into trouble by spending beyond their means.
If you focus on what you can control and do your best with that, you’ll be a lot happier. This means:
- read less news - you’re more likely to get stressed than find something actionable
- spend less time on social media - social media loves to hyper-focus on a handful of things it dislikes (e.g. climate change)
- spend more time doing things you enjoy - get out in nature, work on hobbies, learn something new, etc
- look for ways to improve your financial situation instead of wasting what little you have medicating the first two bullet points here
Doing more of things that make you happy and less of things that stress you out. Generally speaking, you’ll be better off that way, and your capacity to fix the things that stress you out will increase.
Thanks for your effort post.
However, disconnecting from reality is not a good strategy imo. Too many libs care more about brunch than about climate change which is partly why we’re so deep in shit.
You might be right about affordability of fringe high tech products and fashion, but at least four generations before us had almost guaranteed housing. Now, buying a house is impossible and renting is expensive as fuck. My financial situation is fine (luckily) but seeing people around me struggle does not make me feel great tbh.
The advice that helped me way more than any of the calendar mottos you had to offer was ‘get organized’ and ‘improve your behavior’. I joined a party and local mutual aid orgs, stopped eating meat, sold my car, and stopped flying. Now I’m at peace because I know, even if everything goes to shit, it’s not my fault and I did everything I could. Put me mentally in a very good place.
disconnecting from reality is not a good strategy imo
I’m not suggesting that, I’m suggesting reality is broader than whatever comes in a news feed. You have limited time and energy, so it’s best to spend that on things you can impact instead of stressing about things you can’t.
Details about circle of control vs circle of interest
I like the book 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, and in it the author breaks things into three groups (image version):
- circle of concern
- circle of influence
- circle of control
You should be spending time from bottom up, and the more you do that, the more those circles will expand.
For example, let’s say you’re concerned about climate change, but you’re currently not equipped to do much about it. Instead of spending time worrying about it, focus on other parts of your life to become able to do something about it. Get your financial situation in order by getting a good job and getting some savings. With that, you’ll have flexibility to get even better jobs (skill up, take risks, etc), and you can eventually scale back your work and focus on policy (e.g. lobby for legislative change, or even run for office).
If you hyperfocus on what’s wrong w/ the world but don’t grow your ability to deal with it, you’ll just become depressed and angry, and that doesn’t get you anywhere. Instead, grow your capacity to impact the world first, and you’ll eventually be able to solve those problems.
four generations before us had almost guaranteed housing
That’s just not true.
TL;DR - housing ownership is increasing, but getting later in life
Here’s some stats for the last 130 or so years for homeownership rates in the US. It has kind of plateaued, probably because there will always be a fairly large part of the population that prefers to rent, as well as a large portion who hasn’t yet gotten the means to own (e.g. young people).
What has changed is the average age of first time home buyers. There are a lot of potential reasons for this, but one key factor is that the percentage of homeowners who are married is reducing. That means a higher overall demand for housing since people are expecting to live separately or have more fluid living arrangements.
There’s a far more recent affordability problem though, which stems from supply chain disruptions during COVID, which caused new construction to fall off a cliff. That trickles down to all types of housing, including apartments. That’s not a generations-long problem though.
In the past, multiple generations lived together, whereas today, everyone seems to want to live separately. It’s a complex issue, but I don’t see the trend you claim exists.
it’s not my fault
That’s part of what I’m talking about, but just saying, “did my part, screw you” isn’t the right solution either. The proper solution is to improve your ability to make an impact. Start with your own personal sustainability, then increase to local issues (help keep your parks and rivers clean), regional areas (push for local regulations/taxes to reduce pollution), and eventually more broad (lobby/run for office).
A lot of people get stuck even before the first step, they get overwhelmed at the things they can’t control and waste what few resources they had, instead of conserving them and growing what they’re able to control.
Delusional
You have the opportunity to help shape the new world.
thats not an excuse to be even more miserable. not that i dont do this too but still.
… and if you’re a stick (or a plant in general), the best thing you can do in that case is to not leave the house.
Sometimes the best thing a flower can do is die
…wait I think that’s the wrong reference
if you’re a plant, throw some seeds, bury them, hope they’ll make it once the climate’s better.
I feel called out, somehow by both.
Me too, and I’m Gen X.
When the fuck did my 40 year old ass become a zoomer?
Easy fix: drink.
